Plus, even if that were true, how sad is that? If Israel is America's last true ally, perhaps someone needs to rethink their foreign relations plan. Or better yet, don't get involved at all.
Iranian Militay is no joke!
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Plus, even if that were true, how sad is that? If Israel is America's last true ally, perhaps someone needs to rethink their foreign relations plan. Or better yet, don't get involved at all.
I'm coming with you
In my opinion the abrahamic religions were born out of conflict and are inherently based on there being conflicts. The whole idea of a messianic figure is all about battling enemies.
There is never, ever going to be stability or peace with the domination of christian or muslim beliefs in the world. The scary thing about faith is that it requires detaching yourself from reasoning and committing to the "blind leap of faith" to accept that which can never be proven to be right.
I challenge any christian, jew or muslim to come up with any new possible knowledge or undeniable fact that would make them stop believing and drop their faith ... It's not going to happen is there - not anything we do would make you change your minds ... never, ever ...
On the other hand - any non-believer would become a believer instantly by some divine appearance and proof - and I mean all of us.
It's frikkin' impossible to change these religious people before they truly see how inherently flawed and damaging their stubborness is, perhaps after having an enormous religious showdown, and only new generations free from their poisonous thought-slavery can improve on this reality of faith dogmas.
The US and Israel are the only "democracies" I know of that are so absolutely saturated with religious mechanisms within their populations and political systems.
I honestly do not understand how the state of Israel can be expected to survive 150-200 years into the future seeing how things are going. There is going to come a day when the US is going to get fed up - as the rest of the world already is. The rest of the world has moved on, embracing the UN and constructing new and more complex layers of civilization and co-existence - letting room for further growth. All the time the US is resisting and sabotaging progress on climate actions, international trade (by scumbag tactics like hidden tax cuts and subsidies to exporters) and trying to continue obviously imbalanced commerce which exploits and undermines development of poorer regions - especially using corruption to keep it that way. As well as supporting repressive regimes when they reap cheap products/commodities in return.
Those policies are just plainly not sustainable for the long haul, and evident by only short-sighted people thinking of lining their own pockets and damning their next generation.
US pension funds, national debt, financial dependency, military spending, health care, environmental challenges, conflicts, world opinion etc are a good indicators of much "progress" is being made for next generations of US citizens.
Well, rapid technological and information changes have brought progress within the grasp of many more, and they are reaching for it - necessarily invoking change - but also opportunity.
As we have seen with Europe, a good way out of the thought-repressive slavery of religion - is simply education and progress.
There is never, ever going to be stability or peace with the domination of christian or muslim beliefs in the world. The scary thing about faith is that it requires detaching yourself from reasoning and committing to the "blind leap of faith" to accept that which can never be proven to be right.
I challenge any christian, jew or muslim to come up with any new possible knowledge or undeniable fact that would make them stop believing and drop their faith ... It's not going to happen is there - not anything we do would make you change your minds ... never, ever ...
On the other hand - any non-believer would become a believer instantly by some divine appearance and proof - and I mean all of us.
It's frikkin' impossible to change these religious people before they truly see how inherently flawed and damaging their stubborness is, perhaps after having an enormous religious showdown, and only new generations free from their poisonous thought-slavery can improve on this reality of faith dogmas.
The US and Israel are the only "democracies" I know of that are so absolutely saturated with religious mechanisms within their populations and political systems.
I honestly do not understand how the state of Israel can be expected to survive 150-200 years into the future seeing how things are going. There is going to come a day when the US is going to get fed up - as the rest of the world already is. The rest of the world has moved on, embracing the UN and constructing new and more complex layers of civilization and co-existence - letting room for further growth. All the time the US is resisting and sabotaging progress on climate actions, international trade (by scumbag tactics like hidden tax cuts and subsidies to exporters) and trying to continue obviously imbalanced commerce which exploits and undermines development of poorer regions - especially using corruption to keep it that way. As well as supporting repressive regimes when they reap cheap products/commodities in return.
Those policies are just plainly not sustainable for the long haul, and evident by only short-sighted people thinking of lining their own pockets and damning their next generation.
US pension funds, national debt, financial dependency, military spending, health care, environmental challenges, conflicts, world opinion etc are a good indicators of much "progress" is being made for next generations of US citizens.
Well, rapid technological and information changes have brought progress within the grasp of many more, and they are reaching for it - necessarily invoking change - but also opportunity.
As we have seen with Europe, a good way out of the thought-repressive slavery of religion - is simply education and progress.
Iran shot 9 test missiles only 1 capable of hitting Israel. they had to use photshop, what a joke. iran is Iraq during Saddam. that army would run so quick while Israel bombed them. and would not be able to strike back
They are not going to war, And Ehud Olmert will resign in a matter of weeks. so there will be no war
They are not going to war, And Ehud Olmert will resign in a matter of weeks. so there will be no war
Yea, Iran is preparing its military for defensive purposes. Israel's air force is unreal and would anniliate Iran. Do you guys remember what happened to Egypt 50 years ago when it tried to invade Israel. It was called the 6 or 7 day war because Israel's jets demolished the entire invading Egyptian army.
Also, Iran tested there missles, but a week earlier Israel practiced war games too. Iran did the tests in response to Israel.
Also, Iran tested there missles, but a week earlier Israel practiced war games too. Iran did the tests in response to Israel.
I sure hope Olmert will resign and the next Israeli PM will be more decisive and more competent. And you're right, no one is going to war. There was no war when Israel destroyed Osirak in 1981, there will be no war when Israel destroys the Iranian nuclear program. The worst case scenario - Iran will fire a few of their glorified scuds at Israel, they will land in the sea or the Negev desert and the Mullahs won't be able to count on Photoshop to bail them out. Iran will not dare to attack american targets as they know full well that if Israel will destroy their nuclear program only, the USAF will destroy everything else (most likely without losing a single plane or a single soldier in the process).
The point is Iran will not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons and it's up to Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs to decide whether they want it the easy way or the hard way, whether they want the Euros to build something nice for them in exchange for their cooperation or they'd prefer Israel to create a bunch of huge holes in the ground in return for their stubbornness. The world (with the exception of the Israel/America hating fringe) will applaud either way, no reasonable person wants Iran to have nukes.
a_person,
another solution and bringing of peace would be if Iran and some other arab nations annihilated Israel. Problem solved just as cleanly as your nifty solution, although that would bring around a permanent solution for the region.
You seem totally blind to politics and only think in terms of military gizmos as long as the US commits to Israel. Imagine if that would stop one day ...
another solution and bringing of peace would be if Iran and some other arab nations annihilated Israel. Problem solved just as cleanly as your nifty solution, although that would bring around a permanent solution for the region.
You seem totally blind to politics and only think in terms of military gizmos as long as the US commits to Israel. Imagine if that would stop one day ...
Yawn! Iran's military is a joke as is their entire country. Listen up retards! One day the United States is going to get fed up playing cop for the middle east. On that day there won't be anymore Iran...literally.
Well, the fact that this has not happened so far is clearly not for the lack of trying. I can certainly appreciate your interest in this kind of a final solution but it's the proposals like yours (and Ahmadinejad's, Hizbullah's Hamas'...) to annihilate Israel that explain why Israel can not allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons. If anyone ever had any doubts regarding the purpose of the Iranian nuclear programs - posts like yours should completely eliminate them.
Besides you're actually wrong, there will be no peace in the region. Lebanon will still have problems with Hizbollah, Hamas with Fatah, Iran-Iraq wars will continue in the future, shia-sunni hatred will not abate, the invasions and annexations of Kuwait will be attempted again, the Gulf States will start developing their own nukes to be able to stand up to Iran. None of these events had anything to do with Israel to begin with. Let alone problems in the rest of the world - riots, terror attacks, pillaging in France, India, Russia, Denmark etc, the events in those countries had nothing to do with the existence of Israel either. Sorry but your understanding of geopolitics is sorely lacking. Your true colors are coming out though.