Iran refuses to hand over black box of plane that crashed.

No, that Israel and US had penetrated Iran's air defence systems and might have been behind the launch of the missile.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-cy...-flaw-in-heavily-guarded-network-experts-say/

That seems a bit outrageous. OK, so we infiltrated and disabled (or seriously curtailed) their missile-defense system. But does that mean it can be commanded as well? And why would the US or Isreal wish to shoot down a passenger plane? To make it LOOK like Iran did it? Theory smells funny.
 
That seems a bit outrageous. OK, so we infiltrated and disabled (or seriously curtailed) their missile-defense system. But does that mean it can be commanded as well? And why would the US or Isreal wish to shoot down a passenger plane? To make it LOOK like Iran did it? Theory smells funny.

I completely agree, but that's what's been going around.

Have a read on Stuxnet and Russia's Sandworm to realize that it's actually possible/plausible.
https://www.ft.com/content/fda4ca3e-0095-11ea-a530-16c6c29e70ca
https://www.ft.com/content/b947b46a-f342-11e9-a79c-bc9acae3b654
 
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Absolutely asinine to suggest that the US would casually and needlessly slaughter a commercial airliner full of innocent people for God knows what purpose.

Let me guess... you also think the US govt knocked down the World Trade Center along with our Israeli minions.

Alright enough conspiracy theory. No i actually don't believe that one bit. I actually think Iran was at a heightened state of alert and shot the plane down by accident.

There's actually a photo of the seeker head in this interesting thread.
https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/628650-ukrainian-aircraft-down-iran.html

US officials say two missiles were fired. Iraqi military bases detected and picked up Iran's air defence systems turning on radar and launching the missiles.
https://time.com/5762527/was-a-ukrainian-passenger-plane-lost-in-the-fog-of-war/

In the video you can see what appears to be the missile (left to right in the video) hitting the plane. After the missile hits the plane continues and appears to be on fire (right to left in the video).
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/world/middleeast/iran-plane-crash-ukraine.html
 
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Alright enough conspiracy theory. No i actually don't believe that one bit. I actually think Iran was at a heightened state of alert and shot the plane down by accident.

There's actually a photo of the seeker head in this interesting thread.
https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/628650-ukrainian-aircraft-down-iran.html
Agree, it looks like an accident.

We did it ourselves, shot down an Iranian airliner over the Gulf. That aircraft was ID'd as a commercial airliner but it made a series of strange maneuvers ending with a descent straight at a missile cruiser.

And the Russians smoke commercial airliners pretty routinely.
 
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Airstrikes target Iran-backed PMF near Iraqi-Syria border
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Last Updated: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 06:24 hrs


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Baghdad [Iran], Jan 10 (ANI): Airstrikes targeted Iran-backed Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF) in Iraqi-Syria border on Friday morning, Sputnik reported citing Arabic-language outlet Al Mayadeen.
According to some reports, two F-351s fighter aircraft belonging to Israeli Air Force struck trucks and individuals near the border.
 
The Iranian thing about the missile having to hit the airplane having to explode is false. All it has to be is one of the types that projects shrapnel outward, rather than being tipped with an explosive.

And if it hits a wing where the fuel is stored, it would look like an explosion.

 
Okay, they shot it down by "mistake". Next question not being asked is what did they mistake it for? You don't mistakenly launch a missile, so what did they think the target was? Obviously the missile was fired with intent to shoot down a plane. The mistake was the plane wasn't the type aircraft they thought it was. Everybody seems just fine with that, but that is in fact an act of war, be it defensive or offensive.
There is little doubt they believed this to be a aircraft flown by the United States and were willing to take the action of shooting it down. I'm not saying one way or the other as to the justification of their action, the plane was in their airspace, but it's clear to me that push comes to shove they have no problem taking a shot at whatever they see as a threat. That my friends does not look like a country on the run from us.
 
You're an utter moron. Iranians don't hate Canada they hate spiteful Americans like you and Trump. When idiots like Trump start military conflicts, there is always tragedy involved. The thing about some of you Americans is unless the tragedy occurs on the homeland, you think it's all part of some master plan you bought into.

Put it this way, if the Iranians had your identity and location and saw your posts on this site, you might be a target. I doubt there is a Canadian out there that is hated as much as you would be identified with your posts on this site.
There is zero chance that they wanted anybody on that plane dead, especially 63 Canadians all of most of were of Iranian descent starting a new life in Canada. The ignorance some of you display on this site is atrocious; you need to shut the fuck up and exercise some respect for those who died as collatoral damage in a needless conflict started by Trump.
First of all, this is really sad.

Secondly, you are possibly to dumbest person on the board and most likely retarded. Don't blame this on Trump you dumb ass. Do you honestly believe that any major military in the world is incapable of determining if a jet is commercial or military? It is extremely easy for a military to figure it out. I don't expect some idiot to know that though.

There are only two possibilities. Iran shot down the plane on purpose or their military is the dumbest this universe has ever seen.

If you really believe that Iran's military is really that fucking stupid to shot down a civilian plane on accident and that is true, it wouldn't take more than a few days for the US to destroy their military. I mean shit. If you are convinced they are that stupid, they have no idea who or where to shoot.
 
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