IP Restrictions

[The Swordsman]

LOL if Baron cared at all about you, he wouldnt be throwing your ass in chit chat on a consistent basis (which doesnt appear on the homepage, I might add). You are not the one driving business here, you are just the person annoying everyone.

A savy business man doesnt put the "golden goose" and his golden eggs down in chit chat where most people dont venture, idiot.

Quote from feckle:

Yep charge a dollar and see how long this place lasts

Baron would be killing off his lucrative spam trade

And he aint about to shoot the goose that lays the golden eggs

 

[The Swordsman]

You are a jack hershey lackey, even though you wont admit it. Look at yourself, you spend all your waking hours creating new aliases...and for what....to talk about Jack Hershey

Come on now, look in the mirror and take your blinders off, no one talks or follows Jack more than you do!

Quote from feckle:

Baron doesn't do that you moron, he has lackeys.. you know.. like you are a Jack Hershey lackey.. it's the only reason I hear from you.. because I destroy your little SCT fantasy and point out you are a losing trader despite blindly following Jack.. you cant think for yourself so your only option is to become an SCT apologist so you don't look like the fool you are for not thinking for yourself

 

[Tums]

Quote from Magna:

Absolutely agree. In this day and age of I.P. anonymizers it's too easy to have an endless array of I.P. addresses. But there's a great discussion started here with hcour's post. One of the ideas is a one-time charge of $1 for lifetime membership to ET. The dollar itself is not a filter, as everybody will pay something that ridiculously small, it's the linking of the payment to a credit card/Paypal account. That's the key as there are no easy anonymizers for credit card/Paypal accounts, and besides then you are talking about criminal fraud which I doubt the disrupters are willing to risk just to post here. In short, the only way to be effective against the computer savvy trolls is to link their registration to something they can't easily change.

Just charge a $10 membership fee, in which you get the life time membership and a $10 coupon from the book store.
At the same time you can charge the bookstore $10 for the customer referral. Your total take will be $20 !!!
Now that's a business idea. What's my cut?

 

[The Swordsman]

Ok, so lets get the ball rolling with ideas in a legit fashion, Perhaps an Poll of the members to see what they think, run options by people and figure out a better way to keep the riff raff from coming back with the same nonesense. Like Magna said, there are too many internet savy posters who are bypassing the weak security that this site has and are making a mockery of it. There is certainly nothing wrong with healthy debate but there is a difference btw that and what we are seeing lately.

I am all for positive changes and will be happy to help if needed.

 

[Reaver]

Quote from Baron:

Yes, we implement restrictions via IP, email, and cookies. The downside of course, is that certain users who are computer savvy, have no life, and have plenty of time, can certainly get around all those restrictions if they really want to.

Or you can still have a life, and buy stealthsurfer or go to a free proxy portal by googling it.

 

[andread]

Quote from Reaver:

Or you can still have a life, and buy stealthsurfer or go to a free proxy portal by googling it.

if this is really the problem, how many can you get of those? Just ban all of them.
another issue would be someone with access to many machines, like a university campus, or with dynamic ip addresses.
You can still ban the domain though.

 

[NihabaAshi]

Quote from andread:

if this is really the problem, how many can you get of those? Just ban all of them.
another issue would be someone with access to many machines, like a university campus, or with dynamic ip addresses.
You can still ban the domain though.

I think Banning a domain will prevent others from the same domain from accessing ET.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

For example, lets pretend we have 6 members with the verizon.net domain.

If verizon is banned because of one bad apple doesn't that prevent the other 5 verizon users from logging into ET???

Here's some problems I see that allows the multiple aliases and many other eye sore problems:

* There are not enough moderators.

* The moderators we do have most of them aren't active users of ET.

Thus, they are only aware of problems only when someone uses the complaint button.

* Most of the moderators are only allowed to police the forum they are assigned too.

For example, the moderator from the Journal section cannot edit, delete, close any threads started in the Career Trader section.

Maybe a moderator can correct me if I'm wrong.

Solution to help control the problematic posters:

* Moderators are allowed to moderate any section of ET.

* Baron needs to contact all the active posters that frequent ET on a daily basis and post messages without breaking the rules to see if they want to be a moderator.

If they say yes...give them roaming ability to moderate the entire EliteTrader.com

My point with the above is this.

IP banning doesn't work and ET needs to be more aggressive in moderating to send a loud and clear message...

As soon as you post some junk...it gets deleted and then your banned.

No warnings and no questions asked.

Hardcore censorship of only those that are problematic and breaking rules.

Simply, sometimes drastic measures are needed to stop a growing problem.

Mark

 

[stock_trad3r]

A tad paranoid are we?

 

[andread]

Quote from NihabaAshi:

I think Banning a domain will prevent others from the same domain from accessing ET.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

you are not.
On the other side, banning an ip address when someone is accessing the internet through a gateway, bans all the people behind the same gateway. Not a perfect solution either.

 

[andread]

Quote from TheKryptoKid:

Don't like a thread or a post???

Here's a radical out of the box solution..


Don't read it!!!

i would agree. Many annoying people are just happy when they cause reactions. The fact that people answer has as major consequence an increase in annoying posts. The best way to get rid of these people is to ignore them.
Unfortunately, I don't think this is going to happen.