Quote from stu:
fair start for a hippy jez, why not try again from there dude
luv
stu
There are four major attitudes you will go through in your return to God. Everyone will go through all four of them, and everyone who progresses will occasionally and unexpectedly bounce back and forth from one to the other. Each level brings with it different thoughts and resulting experiences, and you will interpret the exact same scripture differently depending on which attitude of learning you are currently engaged in.
Those four attitudes will be: dualism, semi-dualism, non-dualism, and pure non-dualism.
You are currently reacting to the kind of God concept emerging out of a belief in dualism. When you realize there is no such God, you can move on.
Dualism is the condition of almost all the universe. The mind believes in the domain of subject and object. Conceptually, it would appear to those who believe in God that there are two worlds that are both true: The world of God, and the world of man.
This drives Newtonian physics.
As some of your scientists of quantum physics know, duality is a myth. For example, take the old riddle of a tree falling in the forest. If there is no one around to hear it, does it make a sound?
If you said the tree always makes a sound whether someone else is around or not, you'd be enormously wrong, even on the level of form. What the tree does is send out sound waves. Sound waves, like radio waves - and for that matter, energy waves - require a receiver to pick them up. There are many radio waves going through the room you sit in now, but there is no sound because there is no receiver tuned to them. The human or animal ear is a receiver. Sound isn't sound
until you hear it. Similarly, a wave of energy does not appear to be matter
until you see or touch it.
In order for anything to interact, you must have duality. Without duality there is nothing to interact
with. There can be nothing in a mirror without an image that appears to be opposite it, attached to an observer to see it. Without duality, there
is no tree in the forest. And if duality is a myth, not only is there no tree, but there is also no universe. Without you to perceive it, the universe is not here. But logic would have to dictate that if the universe is not here, then you are also not here. In order to make the illusion of existence, you must take oneness and seemingly divide it, which is precisely what you've done. It's all a trick.
The concept of oneness is hardly an original one. However, the question few people ever ask is: What am I really one
with?
Although most of those who do ask this question would say the answer is God, they then make the error of
assuming they and this universe were created in their present form by the Divine. That is not true, and it leaves the seeker in a position where even if he masters the mind, as Buddha certainly did, he will still not reach God in a permanent way. Yes, he will achieve oneness with the mind that made the duality waves. This mind, in a non-place that transcends all of your dimensions, is completely outside the system of time, space, and form. This is the logical and proper extension of non-duality, yet it is still not God. It is, in fact, a dead end. Or better yet, a dead beginning. This explains why Buddhism, which is obviously the world's most psychologically sophisticated religion, does not handle the issue of God. It's because Buddha didn't handle the issue of God while he was still in the body you call Buddha. When Buddha said, "I am awake", he meant he realized that he was not actually a participant in the illusion, but the maker of the entire illusion.
Still, there is another step required, where the mind that is the maker of the illusion chooses
completely against itself in favor of God. Of course someone of Buddha's tremendous accomplishment had a snap of it, quickly going on to the exact same awareness as myself. But this was done by Buddha in a lifetime the world doesn't even know about. It's not unheard of for people to achieve my level of enlightenment in obscurity, and for the world to think they achieved it in a more famous lifetime where they really didn't.
Bottom line: You can't have both God and your universe. You can't have both you
and God. The two are mutually exclusive. You'll have to choose.
There is an astonishing parallel between what happened to Hinduism and what happened to my teachings. I taught pure non-dualism,
interpreted by the world of dualism. The Vedanta was non-dualism, interpreted by the world of dualism. Today, you have two huge religions that are controlled by a reactionary majority, both in competition for the hearts and minds of a world that isn't even there - one religion being the symbol of a government based on money, and the other religion being the symbol of a government that could possibly engage in nuclear war along with it's next-door, equally reactionary Muslim neighbor...
...and here you are, stu, reacting to the reactionaries! Such antics may be good enough for most of the planet, but they don't have to be good enough for you. The attitude of non-dualism tells you that what you are seeing is not the truth. If it's not the truth, then how can you judge it? To judge it is to give it reality. But how can you judge and give reality to that which isn't there? And if it's not there, why would you need to acquire it, or fight a war over it, or make it more holy or valuable than something else? How could one piece of land on earth be more important than another? Why is Tibet more important than anyplace else?
Now you realize there isn't any such thing as a subject and an object, there is only oneness. Still unknown to you is that this is an
imitation of oneness, for few have learned to make the distinction between being one with the mind that has seemingly separated itself from God, and being one with God.
You are reacting to the inevitable picture of God that arises out of dualistic attitudes. Such a God is both forgiving
and wrathful, both loving
and a killer, apparently depending on what kind of a mood He's in. This may be a good description of a dualistic mind, but it is hardly a description of God. Your split mind has unconsciously assigned to God the same qualities that your seemingly separated mind itself possesses. Thus, God and the messages that seem to come from him are conflicted. The reactionary preaches such a God out of fear. You deny this aspect of your mind by reacting to the reactionaries.
Almost needless to say, all of this leads to countless oddities, including the bizarre notion that God would somehow play a role in instructing people to kill other people in order to acquire certain lands and possessions...or bring a certain version of justice or the right religion to everyone. The nonsensical tragedy of duality is considered to be normal by all modern societies, which are themselves as mad as a hatter.
Jesus
