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..... those few words should be enough to redline any intelligently designed bullshit gaugeQuote from Teleologist:
"Masterful" Federal Ruling on Intelligent Design Was Copied from ACLU
By: Staff
Discovery Institute
December 12, 2006
Seattle -- The key section of the widely-noted court decision on intelligent design issued a year ago on December 20 was copied nearly verbatim from a document written by ACLU lawyers, according to a study released today by scholars affiliated with the Discovery Institute.
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Quote from james_bond_3rd:
http://www.admin.ox.ac.uk/po/060523.shtml
"Dr John Pannell, who co-authored the paper with his Oxford doctoral student Dr Richard Buggs, said: âIt is clear that climate change and human interference can set plant populations on the move, with rapid extinction being one possible consequence when different species meet. Processes occurring in natural plant populations can teach us important lessons about what can happen when related but genetically incompatible species mate with one another.â"
That was May 2006. So Buggs is a newly minted PhD. With the help of his teacher, he may have figured out a plant or two. How does that make him an authority in evolution or ID?
BTW, it's probably more appropriate for him to study insects...
Quote from Teleologist:
Cardinal Expands Censorship Question
by Bruce Chapman on February 8, 2007
It was gratifying to read the AP account of Cardinal Schoenbornâs lecture in New York last night and to note the way that His Eminence once again set the media and others straight on the position of the Catholic Church. It wonât make any difference to the Darwinists, of course, because, depending on their audience, they hold either that the Church has accepted Darwinism or that the Catholic Church is just an enemy of reason. Donât confuse Darwinists with evidence on anything.
Earlier yesterday the Cardinal of Vienna (and senior editor of the Catechism of the Catholic Church) also heard some discussions on evolution by various scholars, including Discovery Institute senior fellow (and biochemist) Michael Behe. Mike reports that the Cardinal made a point of talking with him and was truly enthusiastic and encouraging. Mike made it clear in his own remarks that the scientific theory of ID doesnât tread on the roles of theology or philosophy. Science can do many things, including detect design, but it cannot take over roles that properly belong to religion and philosophy. ID definitely is compatible with these other ways of knowing, of course.
Personally, for me the most satisfying part of the Cardinalâs lecture was his critique of court-ordered censorship of ID in school rooms. It seems to have escaped the New York Times and many other opinion leaders that the Kitzmiller (Dover) decision was about that subject. The court had no capacity to judge ID on its scientific merits, but it did have an obligation to speak to First Amendment issues. Sadly, the judge, as we have shown, took over 90 percent of his ruling on ID right out of the ACLU briefâfactual errors and all.
Since our critics always like to put wordsâand policy positionsâin our mouths, let me remind the reader that Discovery Institute does not support requiring the teaching of ID, only the teaching of the scientific evidence for and against Darwinâs theory. Like Cardinal Schoenborn we also support academic freedom on the subject of intelligent design. Let the critics therefore deal with the true issue of censorship.
Today Discovery announced that another 100 scientists have signed the Dissent from Darwin list. It now totals 700 names. One of the new signers is Dr. Michael Egnor, award winning professor of neurosurgery and pediatrics at SUNY (Stony Brook). Says Dr. Egnor, âDarwinism plays no role in medicine. Period.â And âDarwinists have not shown any evidence that natural selection is capable of generating significant amounts of information.â
He and Cardinal Schoenborn are on the same page: Let people debate this issue openly. Donât try to hide the evidence or shut down the controversy. That is a dead end not only for education, but for science.