Intelligent Design is not creationism

[james_bond_3rd]

Henderson Condemns Suppression of the Pastafarian Debate in America

February 8, 2007

Bobby Henderson of Oregon sharply criticized efforts in America to prevent students and the public from learning about the debate over the Pastafarian theory of creation.

Bobby Henderson of Oregon said in a lecture that restricting debate about the Pastafarian theory of creation amounts to censorship in schools and in the broader public...

 

[james_bond_3rd]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Truly, it makes little sense not to allow children to make up their own minds.

However, if the controlling scientist supporters are afraid that the other point of view is actually one that would be accepted by the students as having some merit, it would keep the mind of the students open and searching to other possible ideas, and away from the dogmatism of the type we have seen on this thread.

I have seen a lot of fear expressed by the dogmatists, borderline phobia like when it comes to giving these kids an opportunity to think for themselves when presented with ideas from alternative points of view.

If you promote Pastafarian theory of creation along side the ID theory, then fine, go ahead. The problem is, your complaint about "open mindedness" is just a facade for promoting ID. You have absolutely no interest in promoting anything other than ID.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Do you really want to see the flaw in your arguments, or are you trying to be silly?

Pastafarian is a denominational theory, ID is not.

Quote from james_bond_3rd:

If you promote Pastafarian theory of creation along side the ID theory, then fine, go ahead. The problem is, your complaint about "open mindedness" is just a facade for promoting ID. You have absolutely no interest in promoting anything other than ID.

 

[Teleologist]

Settle Down: It's not wrong. It's just not based on facts.

by Logan Gage on January 30, 2007


NPR’s Morning Edition recently had a story on Northwestern High school in Baltimore. Students there have been struggling to pass the state science test. The interesting part of this story is the muddled but all-too-common way the featured biology teacher handles students’ perception of conflict between their religious beliefs and Darwinian theory.

According to the teacher, what students' churches and families told them about God creating the world is not wrong; rather, it is just not based on “fact.”

"You've got your area of faith. You've got the things your parents have taught you, your church has taught you. And all those things are good. But because we're in a science class, science is not based on faith. Science is based on fact. But I'm not saying this is right or wrong. All I'm telling you is this is on your [test]."

This is one of the most patronizing lines in the debate over
Darwinism and public schools. Call me simple, but if something isn’t based on fact, why isn’t it wrong? To believe something is to believe it to be true. To believe something is true is to believe that it corresponds to reality--or to put it another way, the facts about the world.

Perhaps when discussing Darwinian theory, concerned parents at school board meetings should say, “I’m not against the teaching of Darwinism. It is all well and good; it’s just that it is not based on facts. The fossil record, DNA experiments, and the presence of irreducibly complex systems merely show that acceptance of Darwinism is not based on factual considerations. It is not wrong though; it is all well and good. I mean, you are still allowed to believe it at home or at the civic club even though it is based on things other than facts—just not in our science classes.”

 

[2cents]

just thought i'd contribute a receipe from the a-ID coffee shop!

"Vanilla Creme Brulée
A basic creme brulee recipe.
6 large egg yolks
6 tablespoons sugar
1 vanilla bean, split lengthwise
1 1/2 cups whipping cream

6 teaspoons granulated sugar (or 8 -12 teaspoons packed brown sugar).

Preheat oven to 325°F.

Whisk yolks and 6 tablespoons sugar in medium bowl to blend. Scrape in seeds from vanilla bean. Gradually whisk the cream into the sugar. Divide mixture among 6 - 3/4 cup custard cups or ramekins. Arrange dishes in 13x9x2-inch baking pan. Pour enough hot water into pan to come halfway up sides of dishes.

Bake custards approximately 35-40 minutes until the custard is set. Do not overbake or your custard will be rubbery. Remove the pan from the oven and remove custard cups from the water. Allow custards to cool before placing in the refrigerator. Chill overnight.

Two hours before serving:
Preheat broiler. Sprinkle 1 teaspoon sugar atop each custard. Place dishes on small baking sheet. Broil until sugar just starts to caramelize, rotating sheet for even browning, about 2 minutes. Chill until caramelized sugar hardens, about 2 hours.

More Creme Brulee Recipes
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Serving size - 6


Dish Options
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Individual 6 oz ramekins


Individual creme brulee/flan dishes


Heart creme brulee dish



Lower Fat Creme Brulee Recipe
Debbie Puente explains how to make a nonfat, 100-calorie version.

Ingredients
2 cups non-fat milk (can use low-fat)
2 Tbs. non-fat dry milk
1 cup whole egg substitute
1/3 cup white granulated sugar
1 tsp. pure vanilla extract
1/4 cup granulated sugar (use as topping)

Preparation
Dissolve the dry milk powder by whisking it in a small amount of the liquid milk. After it is dissolved, add the remaining milk. Combine the egg substitute, 1/3 cup sugar and vanilla extract with the milk. When the mixture is completely blended, strain into another bowl.

Spoon the mixture into ramekins, which are in a water bath in a larger dish. (The water should come about halfway up the sides of the ramekins.) The water helps maintain a slow heating process for the custard to prevent curdling. Bake in a 350-degree oven for 40 to 50 minutes. After removing from the oven, chill for at least two hours or up to two days.

When ready to serve, sprinkle 1 to 2 teaspoons of sugar on top of each custard. Place the ramekins into a larger dish containing ice, if using a broiler to caramelize the sugar. (Kitchen specialty stores sell handheld torches that can be used for this purpose.) Watch the process closely because the dish can quickly go from a nice caramel color to burned.

Yield: 4 to 6 servings "

 

[james_bond_3rd]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Do you really want to see the flaw in your arguments, or are you trying to be silly?

Pastafarian is a denominational theory, ID is not.

A religious denomination, (also simply denomination) is a subgroup within a religion that operates under a common name, tradition, and identity. In Islam such subgroups are referred to as "sects" rather than denominations.

What has denomination anything to do with "open mindedness?"

 

[2cents]

suggest it'd be intelligent if u designed yr meal to start wid' orange duckie tho'...

"Vanilla Creme Brulée
A basic creme brulee recipe.
6 large egg yolks
6 tablespoons sugar
1 vanilla bean, split lengthwise
1 1/2 cups whipping cream

6 teaspoons granulated sugar (or 8 -12 teaspoons packed brown sugar).

Preheat oven to 325°F.

Whisk yolks and 6 tablespoons sugar in medium bowl to blend. Scrape in seeds from vanilla bean. Gradually whisk the cream into the sugar. Divide mixture among 6 - 3/4 cup custard cups or ramekins. Arrange dishes in 13x9x2-inch baking pan. Pour enough hot water into pan to come halfway up sides of dishes.

Bake custards approximately 35-40 minutes until the custard is set. Do not overbake or your custard will be rubbery. Remove the pan from the oven and remove custard cups from the water. Allow custards to cool before placing in the refrigerator. Chill overnight.

Two hours before serving:
Preheat broiler. Sprinkle 1 teaspoon sugar atop each custard. Place dishes on small baking sheet. Broil until sugar just starts to caramelize, rotating sheet for even browning, about 2 minutes. Chill until caramelized sugar hardens, about 2 hours.

More Creme Brulee Recipes
Looking for another style Creme Brulee? Pumpkin, Coconut, Chocolate, Espresso, Hot Banana. Over 50 more recipes for Creme Brulee.

Serving size - 6


Dish Options
Here are additional dish options:


Individual 6 oz ramekins


Individual creme brulee/flan dishes


Heart creme brulee dish



Lower Fat Creme Brulee Recipe
Debbie Puente explains how to make a nonfat, 100-calorie version.

Ingredients
2 cups non-fat milk (can use low-fat)
2 Tbs. non-fat dry milk
1 cup whole egg substitute
1/3 cup white granulated sugar
1 tsp. pure vanilla extract
1/4 cup granulated sugar (use as topping)

Preparation
Dissolve the dry milk powder by whisking it in a small amount of the liquid milk. After it is dissolved, add the remaining milk. Combine the egg substitute, 1/3 cup sugar and vanilla extract with the milk. When the mixture is completely blended, strain into another bowl.

Spoon the mixture into ramekins, which are in a water bath in a larger dish. (The water should come about halfway up the sides of the ramekins.) The water helps maintain a slow heating process for the custard to prevent curdling. Bake in a 350-degree oven for 40 to 50 minutes. After removing from the oven, chill for at least two hours or up to two days.

When ready to serve, sprinkle 1 to 2 teaspoons of sugar on top of each custard. Place the ramekins into a larger dish containing ice, if using a broiler to caramelize the sugar. (Kitchen specialty stores sell handheld torches that can be used for this purpose.) Watch the process closely because the dish can quickly go from a nice caramel color to burned.

Yield: 4 to 6 servings"

just tryin' to 'elp

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

All denominations I have seen accept intelligent design, so ID includes them all.

Science classes in high school don't teach every single aspect of Darwinism, or subtle aspects, they simply teach the basics.

Basic ID is non denominational, and all it does is provide alternative to ignorant chance.

Quote from james_bond_3rd:

A religious denomination, (also simply denomination) is a subgroup within a religion that operates under a common name, tradition, and identity. In Islam such subgroups are referred to as "sects" rather than denominations.

What has denomination anything to do with "open mindedness?"

 

[2cents]

but this ain't to sayyyy of course that pot-au-feu is not an ID option... u just 'ave to be a bit ova' creationisttt'

"Pot-au-feu
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A nice pot-au-feu, with (French) this recipe.
Vegetables to be cooked in the pot au feu: carrots, turnips, leeks, onionsThe pot-au-feu (French for "pot on the fire") is a French boiled dinner.

There are variations as to the cuts of beef and the vegetables involved, but in general a pot-au-feu will contain:

beef (generally, low-cost cuts that need long cooking)
usually some kind of cartilaginous meat, such as oxtail and/or bone with marrow;
vegetables: carrots, turnips, leeks, celery, and onions;
spices: bouquet garni, salt, black pepper and cloves.
Cooking cartilaginous meat in the stew will result in gelatin being dissolved into the broth. If the stew is allowed to cool, the broth may turn into a jelly, resulting in an interesting texture. Allowing the stew to cool also allows for the removal of excess grease which forms a layer at the surface.

The dish is often served with coarse salt and strong Dijon mustard and sometimes also with gherkins and samphire pickled in vinegar.

The pot-au-feu broth may be used as a soup (often enriched with rice, pasta or toasted bread), as a base for sauces, or for cooking vegetables or pasta. Ready-to-use "pot-au-feu" concentrated cubes for dissolving into hot water are on the market for such purposes as a substitute for true pot-au-feu broth."

 

[Teleologist]

James Bond:

Bobby Henderson of Oregon said in a lecture that restricting debate about the Pastafarian theory of creation amounts to censorship in schools and in the broader public...

According to Wikipedia:

Henderson professes belief in a supernatural Creator called the Flying Spaghetti Monster, which resembles spaghetti and meatballs. He furthermore calls for the "Pastafarian" theory of creation to be taught in science classrooms.

ID doesn't posit a supernatural creator and leading ID proponents are not calling for ID theory to be taught in science classrooms.