Increases in CO2 - Causes Cooling

you are making my point.
the earth has been cycling for millions of years.
so far there is no science showing man made co2 causes warming.


convexx said:
Bro.

You show we're at the bottom scale of the "historical record" but fail to see the forest for the trees. OBVIOUSLY CO2 was highest prior to afforestation. There is a spike in CO2 during the late Jurassic as well (biotic crisis). Guess why?

You're so abjectly stupid that I am surprised you haven't choked yourself.
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you did not address this when I showed it to you a few days ago.
I also showed you the study which shows you that co2 lags change in ocean temps by about 12 months.

So would like to explain how the laggard could be responsible for the leader.
Is it possible yes... but where is the data or other cycles showing it to be the case --- why haven't the thousands of papers on the subject found it.

all the pro agw nutters have are failed models and speculation.

jem said:
this was too advanced for fraudcurrents but why don't you take a look at it convexx.
now how can you be sure man made co2 is doing anything?


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The shape of the annual carbon increase resembles the shape of the global sea surface temperature (HADSST3), especially after reliable CO2 measurements began by Keeling after March 1958. Several known events are visible. Counting backwards: the 1998 El Niño, the 1994-5 El Niño, Mt Pinatubo in 1991, the 1986-7 El Niño, Mt Ruiz in 1985, El Chichon eruption in 1982, the 1972-3 El Niño, etc. Every positive peak is an El Niño and every negative peak is associated with a major volcanic eruption.

As can be seen in Figure 1, there is no relationship between the fossil carbon emissions curve and the annual carbon increase curve. That is because all the fossil emissions carbon is taken up by the biosphere or by the oceans according to Henry’s Law, and then sequestered there. The carbon in the atmosphere is controlled by temperature. This has been described by Dr. Murry Salby in this presentations at Sydney and Hamburg. He compares the CO2 curve to the integral of temperature. Here, I am going the other way mathematically, taking the differential of the CO2 curve as temperature and comparing it to known temperature data, the HADSST3 data.

- See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/08/...-co2-and-not-vice-versa/#sthash.gBOX3Ftl.dpuf
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jem said:
you are making my point.
the earth has been cycling for millions of years.
so far there is no science showing man made co2 causes warming.
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lol. "cycling" from a period with no land-plants to a period of rapid afforestation. How the fuck did your kind make it to 2014?
 
you seem to follow a pattern of making a non sequitor followed by an insult.
I prefer logical arguments backed up by science or data then followed by the accusation "troll".

Now lets get back to the point of this thread.
Do you have any science showing man made co2 is causing warming? or just a bunch of failed models.?


convexx said:
lol. "cycling" from a period with no land-plants to a period of rapid afforestation. How the fuck did your kind make it to 2014?
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jem said:
we seem to be at the very low end of the historical record.
co2 is the black line.


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To summarize for those of you with an IQ over 40.

jem's "historical record" shows the trend lower of CO2 over the ages. >500MM years. He somehow finds that significant. The trend is solely due to the arrival of plants during the Silurian period. He often cites the absurd "statistic" that there has been no warming over the last 17Y.

So yes, there was a lot of CO2 in the atmos. when the Earth was a rock with no life.

Then the plants came! Some of you may have heard of photosynthesis!
 
1. first of all I did not cite the trend down. I was not making a trend down argument.
I was showing co2 is at historically low levels. So try another strawman.

2. the point that there has been no warming for 17 .8 years is that it invalidates the models which forecast warming because co2 has been rising.

now do you care to try and engage on the real argument.
do you have any science showing man made co2 causes warming.



convexx said:
To summarize for those of you with an IQ over 40.

jem's "historical record" shows the trend lower of CO2 over the ages. >500MM years. He somehow finds that significant. The trend is solely due to the arrival of plants during the Silurian period. He often cites the absurd "statistic" that there has been no warming over the last 17Y.

So yes, there was a lot of CO2 in the atmos. when the Earth was a rock with no life.

Then the plants came! Some of you may have heard of photosynthesis!
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exactly the point I made.
that is not a trend argument


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convexx said:
we seem to be at the very low end of the historical record.
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