In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

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Deaths in Sweden for 2020 reached a national record. And the counting is not even completed yet. Medical researchers expect the total will be over 100,000.

The Swedish Prime Minister has stated the COVID policy has completed failed. The government recently instituted federal level lockdowns and restrictions.

As of now deaths are ~95k which when considering the lowest death rate in a generation in 2019...and when considering that the Swedes correctly acted as if there was no pandemic (no masks no lockdown)....
Sweden was correct in their model (except for their protection of the long term care facilities). They crushed it.
Politicians saying otherwise means less than zero. The numbers are all you need. They state this is the weakest pandemic in 500 years.

 

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As of now deaths are ~95k which when considering the lowest death rate in a generation in 2019...and when considering that the Swedes correctly acted as if there was no pandemic (no masks no lockdown)....
Sweden was correct in their model (except for their protection of the long term care facilities). They crushed it.
Politicians saying otherwise means less than zero. The numbers are all you need. They state this is the weakest pandemic in 500 years.

So answer the question - Is 95K the highest number of yearly deaths reported in Swedish history? Yes or No?

Keeping in mind that the death total is not complete for the year and the 95K does not include all of December... and is not the finalized number.

Sweden's own government has stated their COVID policy completely failed. Any reasonable person goes with the government explanation aligned with the dismal data.

If Sweden's COVID policies were so good then why is their federal government instituting country-wide lockdowns and restrictions?

 

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So answer the question - Is 95K the highest number of yearly deaths reported in Swedish history? Yes or No?

Keeping in mind that the death total is not complete for the year and the 95K does not include all of December... and is not the finalized number.

Sweden's own government has stated their COVID policy completely failed. Any reasonable person goes with the government explanation aligned with the dismal data.

If Sweden's COVID policies were so good then why is their federal government instituting country-wide lockdowns and restrictions?

SO WHAT.
In 2019 they had the lowest number of yearly deaths in 15 years....
And the lowest annual death rate in a generation.
So anyone with some common sense and who understands cycles knows that the following year you will likely see a HIGHER number of average deaths because your elderly and sickly are considered ‘dry tinder’: very susceptible to infection and sickness.

assuming 95k deaths, this amounts to a 3% increase in deaths over the last 5 year average (2015-2019).

No masks, No lockdowns...
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?????????

I know you are so disappointed that there aren’t 60,000 to 200,000 covid dead, as the math would suggest there would be with no mitigation efforts.

But your science is FOR SHIT.

Don’t forget population growth.
Sweden’s population increased by about 6.5% from 2010 to 2020.
Annual deaths from 2010 to 2020 increased by 4.7%.

Are you shitting in your pants yet?


How fucking scared are you?
The data is right in front of your face.

 

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SO WHAT.
In 2019 they had the lowest number of yearly deaths in 15 years....
And the lowest annual death rate in a generation.
So anyone with some common sense and who understands cycles knows that the following year you will likely see a HIGHER number of average deaths because your elderly and sickly are considered ‘dry tinder’: very susceptible to infection and sickness.

assuming 95k deaths, this amounts to a 3% increase in deaths over the last 5 year average (2015-2019).

No masks, No lockdowns...
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?????????

I know you are so disappointed that there aren’t 60,000 to 200,000 covid dead, as the math would suggest there would be with no mitigation efforts.

But your science is FOR SHIT.

Don’t forget population growth.
Sweden’s population increased by about 6.5% from 2010 to 2020.
Annual deaths from 2010 to 2020 increased by 4.7%.

Are you shitting in your pants yet?


How fucking scared are you?
The data is right in front of your face.

Go enjoy your fantasy. The facts remain:

• 2020 is the highest yearly death toll in Sweden's history.
• The 95K death count is not even for the complete calendar year. The deaths will be going up.
  
• The Swedish government has stated their no-lockdown policy was a complete failure.
• Sweden is now using federal level lockdowns and restrictions.

 

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Here lying moron here is the official Swedish data....
Look at "Nya intensivvårdade fall per dag"

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa/page/page_0/


only a congenital lying moron idiot...
would not understand you can be in a trend down in new ICU admits even if overall you have more patients in the ICU.

You are truly a fucking moron who has no business arguing with anyone because you don't comprehend the difference between trends and absolutes...
Or you just a massive liar...
I think both.

The trend is down... in new ICU admits.
The trend is down significantly in infection.
The trend is down in deaths subject to the concept that more deaths will be added in the future... what we don't know is if it will reach new highs...

My bet would be the highs in daily deaths are in for this wave.
(but that is an educated guess... or conjecture. Do you understand the difference between conjecture and fact?)


https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa/page/page_0/

Are you spouting bullshiat again. Stop pushing your nonsense and fabricated assertions.
Once again the charts in Sweden always trend down in recent days for deaths, hospitalizations, and other COVID data since there is a delay in updating recent data. This is noted directly by the Swedish government on their website.

For example, let's take a look at hospital ICU admissions and capacity in Sweden currently. The trend is not down.
More Covid-19 patients in Sweden's hospitals than at any point in 2020
https://www.thelocal.se/20210112/mo...n-swedens-hospitals-than-at-any-point-in-2020

Once again let's go to the facts -- Sweden has abandoned its "herd immunity" strategy with the Prime Minister stating is was a complete failure. The country is instituting restrictions and lockdowns to deal with COVID. The era of "no lockdowns", "only lockdown the at-risk", "natural herd immunity" and the "Great Barrington Declaration" is over. All of these failed ideas which cost many lives have been buried in the dustbin of history.

 

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Here lying moron here is the official Swedish data....
Look at "Nya intensivvårdade fall per dag"

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa/page/page_0/


only a congenital lying moron idiot...
would not understand you can be in a trend down in new ICU admits even if overall you have more patients in the ICU.

You are truly a fucking moron who has no business arguing with anyone because you don't comprehend the difference between trends and absolutes...
Or you just a massive liar...
I think both.

The trend is down... in new ICU admits.
The trend is down significantly in infection.
The trend is down in deaths subject to the concept that more deaths will be added in the future... what we don't know is if it will reach new highs...

My bet would be the highs in daily deaths are in for this wave.
(but that is an educated guess... or conjecture. Do you understand the difference between conjecture and fact?)


https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa/page/page_0/

Yes... and once again you should read the warning on the Swedish health website that the data is delayed by two weeks or more ..... which is why your trend always appears to be down in the chart.

How many times do we have to tell you this.

Let's just ignore that articles quoting the health ministry and doctors stating ICU admission for COVID in 2021 are at a all time high and higher than any point in 2020.

 

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Sweden's data clearly shows a strong trend UP in deaths through December 31st, and it is quite reasonable to assume ( based on previous weeks ) that the last two weeks are incomplete and may see a large add on in those numbers given time. It is ignorant to suggest the trend in deaths is DOWN in Sweden. There isn't even confirmation yet that the UP trend is over.

 

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which data are you talking about moron.. and asshole for calling me out... when you were dead ass wrong about the trend in ICU admits?

Why don't you specify what you are talking about moron and then provide a link.

You obviously did not understand that the trend in ICU admits could be down but the total in the ICU could still be rising.
So we have no reason trust you thoughts on this subject either.

Yes... and once again you should read the warning on the Swedish health website that the data is delayed by two weeks or more ..... which is why your trend always appears to be down in the chart.

How many times do we have to tell you this.

Let's just ignore that articles quoting the health ministry and doctors stating ICU admission for COVID in 2021 are at a all time high and higher than any point in 2020.