that is propaganda....
We are not going to have millions of deaths if we only have the low risk groups out.
What fucking bullshit scare leftist propaganda crap are you presenting here?
millions of death... Fucking A are you insane.
1. First of all they speculate 70 to 90 percent need to be infected to get herd immunity after telling us they don't really know the R0. (patently absurd given what we are seeing in the data)
I have seen studies say it could take as little 40 percent among healthy populations and could be much lower with good testing and tracing among those healthy groups. (I think its because healthy people are infectious a shorter period of time and don't go around slamming health care providers.)
2. at least they agree herd immunity is possible...
"It’s likely COVID-19 confers at least some immunity, though. For one, there are no confirmed cases of someone getting COVID-19 twice. Early reports from South Korea drew a lot of attention after patients tested positive for the virus again weeks after having recovered, but researchers later said that dead virus fragments from the original infection likely triggered the positive tests, rather than a second infection. One early study from China — which has not yet been peer reviewed, so take it with an extra grain of salt — also measured neutralizing antibodies in 94 percent of patients."
3. The article is horribly slanted... propaganda...
We are not talking about the entire population and stats leading to millions of deaths.
We are arguing we should have already let the low risk group out.
The death rate among younger healthy people with no co morbidities is very very low.
Millions of deaths? What a fucking absurd lie.
We are potentially talking fewer deaths than suicides if you let the low risk people out.
You article is a disgusting piece of propaganda.
Exactly what you would expect from a left wing site like that.
4. Finally we are already opening up and we are not seeing what they warn us about.
We are not going to have millions of deaths if we only have the low risk groups out.
What fucking bullshit scare leftist propaganda crap are you presenting here?
millions of death... Fucking A are you insane.
1. First of all they speculate 70 to 90 percent need to be infected to get herd immunity after telling us they don't really know the R0. (patently absurd given what we are seeing in the data)
I have seen studies say it could take as little 40 percent among healthy populations and could be much lower with good testing and tracing among those healthy groups. (I think its because healthy people are infectious a shorter period of time and don't go around slamming health care providers.)
2. at least they agree herd immunity is possible...
"It’s likely COVID-19 confers at least some immunity, though. For one, there are no confirmed cases of someone getting COVID-19 twice. Early reports from South Korea drew a lot of attention after patients tested positive for the virus again weeks after having recovered, but researchers later said that dead virus fragments from the original infection likely triggered the positive tests, rather than a second infection. One early study from China — which has not yet been peer reviewed, so take it with an extra grain of salt — also measured neutralizing antibodies in 94 percent of patients."
3. The article is horribly slanted... propaganda...
We are not talking about the entire population and stats leading to millions of deaths.
We are arguing we should have already let the low risk group out.
The death rate among younger healthy people with no co morbidities is very very low.
Millions of deaths? What a fucking absurd lie.
We are potentially talking fewer deaths than suicides if you let the low risk people out.
You article is a disgusting piece of propaganda.
Exactly what you would expect from a left wing site like that.
4. Finally we are already opening up and we are not seeing what they warn us about.
For those who want a in-depth perspective on herd immunity including graphs you can alter with different characteristics... .here it is.
Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/without-a-vaccine-herd-immunity-wont-save-us/
If you read this article and fail to understand the following two points -- -then you are dense:
- Achieving herd immunity to COVID-19 in the U.S. naturally via infection would require millions of deaths.
- The characteristics of a disease make it unlikely that herd immunity levels can be reached without a vaccine... as outlined in the text.
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