Problem is, there's too many of them. Slay one with facts and logic, and more of them emerge.
Impeachment 2.0
- Thread starter gwb-trading
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Yeah-------no.
Yes, that's true. But before the riot, Trump told the people at the rally to be peaceful.
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial
No matter whether Trump is convicted at the impeachment trial or not, he's finished as a politician. And the Democrats can call for use of the 14th Amendment to keep Trump from running for office again if they want to.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sc...th-amendment-measure-to-bar-trump-from-office
Schumer leaves door open to 14th Amendment measure to bar Trump from office
Virginia's Sen. Tim Kaine has been at the forefront of the 14th Amendment push
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer Thursday did not rule out bringing legislation to bar former President Donald Trump from office if he is not convicted at the ongoing Senate impeachment trial.
Democratic senators have discussed in recent weeks that if they cannot secure the 67 votes needed to convict Trump -- and bar him from holding office in a subsequent simple-majority vote -- that they might invoke the 14th Amendment of the Constitution to do the same.
Schumer, D-N.Y., was asked about the possibility in a press conference ahead of the impeachment trial proceedings Thursday.
"We're first going to finish the impeachment trial and then Democrats will get together and discuss where we go next," Schumer replied.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) speaks during a press conference about student debt outside the U.S. Capitol on February 4, 2021 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images) (Getty Images)
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He'd also praised the case made by the House impeachment managers Wednesday and that he is "hopeful it will change minds. It's hard to look at that and not see the gravity of what happened."
Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., has been on the forefront of the 14th Amendment push among Democrats, and Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., late last month called it "intriguing."
"What Senator Kaine is talking about is a censure resolution that would also specifically include the elements of the 14th Amendment that lead to disqualification from future office," Coons said. "That's intriguing to me and something I'm willing to look at the bottom line here is we have to deliver accountability for the events of January 6."
The 14th Amendment to the Constitution says that Congress can bar people who "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" against the U.S. from holding office. It was originally meant to prevent former Confederates from serving in the government after the Civil War.
"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof," the amendment says.
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"The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article," it adds.
Sen. Tim Kaine D-Va., speaks during a news conference outside of the Senate chamber, on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Jan. 14, 2020. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)
Some interpret this amendment as fundamentally giving Congress the ability to bar a person who "engaged in insurrection" -- what Trump is accused of in the article of impeachment -- from office.
It's almost certain that this action, like an impeachment conviction, does not have the votes to pass.
It would likely raise constitutional questions and slippery slope concerns that it would set a precedent neither party wants when their preferred candidate is in office.
Besides which, the article talks about the rally at the Capitol---nothing about before or after.
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The outcome of Donald Trump's impeachment trial is predetermined, not unlike a trial down in Mississippi in 1964.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...mpeachment-trial-republicans-ignore-evidence/
The outcome of Donald Trump's impeachment trial is predetermined, not unlike a trial down in Mississippi in 1964.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...mpeachment-trial-republicans-ignore-evidence/
Before the riot...for months...he invited them to the Capitol for one specific day thru his social media platform, sons fund raisers...January 6th via many tweets including stating to "raise hell".
- Using his own words was brilliant in educating the world how his tweets, rallies, rhetoric for many months lead into January 6th. Americans got tired of it...+84 million voted for the other guy.
Simply, other goals from the Impeachment were achieved but the real damage to Trump will be done afterwards via the state criminal cases waiting for the completion of the Impeachment.
Yet, I wish the house managers had provided eye witness testimony from those in Trump's inner circle about his behavior during the riot on the Capitol although that too is not realistic considering many have a cult like behavior.
wrbtrader
And additionally, The Senate has no jurisdiction to hold this trial, especially with one of the jurors, who has already indicated that he'll vote to convict, presiding. Republicans would do well to not pay any attention at all to this joke of a sham.
A bipartisan majority in The House voted to convict,so will a bipartisan majority in The Senate.Another part of the legacy of Americas worst president ever.