Another striking illustration is the treatment the Son of God received while He tabernacled among men. For two thousand years Israel's hopes had all centered in the advent of their Messiah. The height of every Jewish woman's ambition was that she might be selected of God to have the honor of being the mother of the promised Seed. For centuries, every pious Hebrew had looked and longed for the day when He should appear who was to occupy David's throne and rule and reign in righteousness. Yet, when He did appear how was the Promised One received? "He was despised and rejected of men." "He came unto His own and His own received Him not." Those who were His brethren according to the flesh "hated" Him "without a cause." The very nation which gave Him birth and to which He ministered in infinite grace and blessing demanded that He should be crucified. The startling thing which I desire to particularly emphasize is, that the narrators of this awful tragedy are fellow countrymen of those upon whose heads rested the guilt of its perpetration. It was Jewish writers who recorded the fearful crime of the Jewish nation against their Messiah! And, I say again, that in the recording of that crime no attempt whatever is made to palliate or extenuate their wickedness; instead, it is denounced and condemned in the most uncompromising terms. Israel is openly charged with having taken and with "wicked hands" slain the "Lord of Glory." Such an honest and impartial recital of Israel's crowning sin can only be explained on the ground that what these men wrote was inspired of God.
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Immortality?!
- Thread starter Katrina Johns
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hey thunderbolt, I asked a question earlier but you sidestepped. Can you enlighten the ones you think live in the dark?
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10745&perpage=6&pagenumber=33
why did he create the mesh to start with?
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10745&perpage=6&pagenumber=33
why did he create the mesh to start with?
Quote from trader556:
hey thunderbolt, I asked a question earlier but you sidestepped. Can you enlighten the ones you think live in the dark?
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10745&perpage=6&pagenumber=33
why did he create the mesh to start with?
I didn't side step your post. I called it "fool's talk". God tells us that a man who believes not in God is a Fool. However, to answer your question, it was paradise when it was all created but man choose to do wrong. There is a HUGE penalty for doing what God says we shouldn't do. The entire universe(solar system, animals, plants, vegetation, the waters, ect..) runs in order, just as God planned it to be so that there are no problems. After all, it was God's intelligent design and he knows what's good for everything. But man was given free will and he has chosen to ignore God's word for his own selfish desires and not for the good of all humanity. I have said it a thousand times, if man did as God said, then there would not be 1 single problem in the world. End of story, the rest is Fool's talk.
People say, you're intolerant!
No, the truth is intolerant. 2+2=4, not 5, not 11, not 213. The truth is unbending, it is unyielding, it is exclusive. The truth of God is offensive to the hellbound, sin-loving, want-to-believe-lies man. God hath not left Himself without witness in this perverse and crooked generation--His word is the Holy Bible (King James 1611 for the English speaking peoples of the world). I am not the author of truth, but I know Who is. His name is Jesus and anything that contradicts His word is a wicked lie.
No, the truth is intolerant. 2+2=4, not 5, not 11, not 213. The truth is unbending, it is unyielding, it is exclusive. The truth of God is offensive to the hellbound, sin-loving, want-to-believe-lies man. God hath not left Himself without witness in this perverse and crooked generation--His word is the Holy Bible (King James 1611 for the English speaking peoples of the world). I am not the author of truth, but I know Who is. His name is Jesus and anything that contradicts His word is a wicked lie.
THE BIBLE contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers. Its doctrines are holy, its precepts are binding, its histories are true, and its decisions are immutable. Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, and practice it to be holy. It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you.
It is the traveler's map, the pilgrim's staff, the pilot's compass, the soldier's sword, and the Christian's charter. Here Paradise is restored, Heaven opened, and the gates of hell disclosed.
CHRIST is its grand subject, our good the design and the glory of God its end.
It should fill the memory, rule the heart, and guide the feet. Read it slowly, frequently, and prayerfully. It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of glory, and a river of pleasure. It is given you in life, will be opened at the judgment, and be remembered forever. It involves the highest responsibility, will reward the greatest labor, and will condemn all who trifle with its sacred contents.
It is the traveler's map, the pilgrim's staff, the pilot's compass, the soldier's sword, and the Christian's charter. Here Paradise is restored, Heaven opened, and the gates of hell disclosed.
CHRIST is its grand subject, our good the design and the glory of God its end.
It should fill the memory, rule the heart, and guide the feet. Read it slowly, frequently, and prayerfully. It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of glory, and a river of pleasure. It is given you in life, will be opened at the judgment, and be remembered forever. It involves the highest responsibility, will reward the greatest labor, and will condemn all who trifle with its sacred contents.
Quote from trdrmac:
Katrina,
As for the issue of science, what I would rather see is people have a better quality of life. There are parts of the world where living to 5 is almost an anomaly. That a kid could step on a landmine and via stem cells grow a new foot seems really kool. Or that a paralyzed person could walk, or a diabetic could live a life without losing vision or limbs. Whatever, that just really seems promising to me.
I agree with you on the quality of life. But it seems Katrina, in being such an ardent proponent of genetic research and lambasting the gov't for the ethics issues would rather see it improved the other way - by only allowing those who are "genetically perfect" to reproduce. As one dumb Russian politician named Zherenovsky likes to put it, let the inferior die and form a prolific humus rich soil on which the new society will sprout. Pardon my loose translation.
The whole ethics issue comes up b/c if the genetic research were allowed to develop freely, eventually it would come to a point where only the "super-talented" etc designed kids would be born bla bla bla. That is undeniably good for the development of science and human race as a whole - e.g. those engeneered human beings might be the new Einsteins and would propel the human race into the future... But only few would have access to the technology initially at least. Thus, most likely people who are underprivileged would either become an inferior dominated race or would die out b/c of not being allowed to reproduce their inferior selves. Just like Hitler would want it, right?
I agree that the benefits of such research are immense and that it should be encouraged, BUT, it should also be closely monitored and some of its directions should not be pursued to avoid extreme outcomes. It's similar to what happened with the atomic bomb except that the repercussions are much greater....
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1
Know ye that the LORD he is God:
it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves... Psalms 100:3
Know ye that the LORD he is God:
it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves... Psalms 100:3
Thunderbolt, are you actually writing all those posts yourself? Or are you just copying and pasting them from somewhere else?
To be honest, having read through your 'discussions' (lol) with people here, you don't strike me as really being all that capable of maintaining a succinct two-way dialogue with anyone. And when you do actually answer somebody, the quality of your posts is 10year oldish. Then, when I read your diatribes, although the ideas presented are completely flawed, the writing is of a higher quality.
Please, at least have the decency to acknowledge the sources you are quoting. It's highly unethical to do otherwise. (And makes you out to be a bigger fool than many here, I imagine, would suspect you to be.)
To be honest, having read through your 'discussions' (lol) with people here, you don't strike me as really being all that capable of maintaining a succinct two-way dialogue with anyone. And when you do actually answer somebody, the quality of your posts is 10year oldish. Then, when I read your diatribes, although the ideas presented are completely flawed, the writing is of a higher quality.
Please, at least have the decency to acknowledge the sources you are quoting. It's highly unethical to do otherwise. (And makes you out to be a bigger fool than many here, I imagine, would suspect you to be.)
Vlad,
I want to start by saying that I don't get the impression that Katrina is trying to build a super race. And all I can say about the "Perfect Race" argument is that it is nothing more than a slippery slope. Hitler, Bin Laden, Hussein, Kadafhi, et. al. all came from the womb, not the test tube.
The second is we already have the haves and have nots. Pretty much the people in my earlier posts would be the have nots. The 20,000 children that starve to death each day, the 20,000 that die of otherwise preventable disease are big time HAVE NOTS.
What does bother me is that with all the children who die each day is that arrogant people go to fertility clinics to create their own kids. If you can't have a child, you should do the unselfish thing and adopt. In fact, before you create a child, you should adopt. So let's cross that bridge before we worry about a master race.
100,000 people die each year from adverse reactions to prescription drugs. I don't hear any of the life is so precious crowd saying we need to ban prescription medication. Why, because the net benefit to society is much greater in the lives saved. Or perhaps the drugs have helped their families, and they don't want to think that people had to die for the treatments that saved their families. Hmm??
The same benefits exist in Stem Cell Research. Oh, I know it could be a human life, just like the hundred or so that needlessly passed while I typed this.
I want to start by saying that I don't get the impression that Katrina is trying to build a super race. And all I can say about the "Perfect Race" argument is that it is nothing more than a slippery slope. Hitler, Bin Laden, Hussein, Kadafhi, et. al. all came from the womb, not the test tube.
The second is we already have the haves and have nots. Pretty much the people in my earlier posts would be the have nots. The 20,000 children that starve to death each day, the 20,000 that die of otherwise preventable disease are big time HAVE NOTS.
What does bother me is that with all the children who die each day is that arrogant people go to fertility clinics to create their own kids. If you can't have a child, you should do the unselfish thing and adopt. In fact, before you create a child, you should adopt. So let's cross that bridge before we worry about a master race.
100,000 people die each year from adverse reactions to prescription drugs. I don't hear any of the life is so precious crowd saying we need to ban prescription medication. Why, because the net benefit to society is much greater in the lives saved. Or perhaps the drugs have helped their families, and they don't want to think that people had to die for the treatments that saved their families. Hmm??
The same benefits exist in Stem Cell Research. Oh, I know it could be a human life, just like the hundred or so that needlessly passed while I typed this.