Hey, the ball is in my court too. It's in everyone's court to do as they wish. It's your decision, your ramifications. It is down to you--bottom line. Twisting the truth doesn't work and it fools no one but the fool. What say you?
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Hey, the ball is in my court too. It's in everyone's court to do as they wish. It's your decision, your ramifications. It is down to you--bottom line. Twisting the truth doesn't work and it fools no one but the fool. What say you?
You might think I'm wasting my time, but someone might just read this and it will penetrate. God Bless All!
BOLT
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You might think I'm wasting my time, but someone might just read this and it will penetrate. God Bless All!
BOLT
which is exactly why i wil always provide the counterpoint that exposes your mindless cult for as the great devaluer of human life that it is.
i hope you realise that preaching fire and brimstone doesn't really endear you to anybody. the only likely thing to happen is that people get a hearty laugh. suits me just fine.
I just read an excerpt from the satanic bible by Anthon Szandor Lavey on amazon. It sounded pretty good. I think I'm going to order it.
Even the pope would want to become a satanist after reading this thread.
This encounter says it Thunderbolt. You peddle a lie then say it's I who twists the truth. You are shown where the lie exists yet you arrogantly ignore it.
Bar from consideration all (especially anything to do with reality) and keep thumping is your motto I'm sure.
You don't want to discuss or debate. You want to indoctrinate a lie into as many as you can.
You want to ignore anything which shows weakness and flaws in your dictates.
It is of little value to you here but is wicked and offensive when forced on a society at large. You and your clan are religious extremists.
Folks can read me (and others better at revealing this swindle) just as well as your drivel, thank goodness.
I am sure that logic and the sense of what is properly right and good is really seen to exist only in humanity itself. The ability to eventually sideline all the fraudsters like you is coming about. So your response is to wriggle and skwirm and threaten even more
You will not prevail. If you were you would have by now. You will lose. The right and goodness of mankind and its will for self determination will always prove superior and true.
thunderdolt, since you are so fond of quoting the bible, explain these rippers in the context of your "loving" god:
Deuteronomy 21 18:21
A Rebellious Son
18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
Nothing vague about THAT commandment is there? You are wasteful or an alcholic? You must be PUT TO DEATH.
Deuteronomy 22
20 If, however, the charge [that the girl isn't a virgin] is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.
22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death-the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help (!), and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.
25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, 27 for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [3] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
Girls, heed the warning, if you are being raped SCREAM.
Christian morality--> raping an engaged woman is a worse crime than raping a not engaged woman.
Again, VERY SPECIFIC. you can't deny it. this is GOD'S WORD. who the hell are you to go against god!
Deuteronomy 13
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people.
did u get that thunder? you must STONE ME. don't disappoint god now. be a good christian and MURDER the unbeliever.
deuteronomy 17
2 If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, 3 and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky, 4 and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, 5 take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. 6 On the testimony of two or three witnesses a man shall be put to death, but no one shall be put to death on the testimony of only one witness.
i like deuteronomy, don't you? it sure doesn't mince words. a crystal clear guide to life as a proper christian.
Numbers 15
32 While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34 and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35 Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." 36 So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses.
where's the MERCY? where's the LOVE? the COMPASSION?
Numbers 31
1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people."
then, after the battle:
13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army-the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds-who returned from the battle.
15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
! outrageous. WAR CRIMINAL.
Leviticus 24
13 Then the LORD said to Moses: 14 "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. 15 Say to the Israelites: 'If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; 16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.
nothing ambiguous about that. how many people have you killed yet thunderbolt?
none! you mean to wilfully disoboey THE LAW OF GOD? no heaven for you buddy..
is THIS the kind of world you offer thunderbolt?
one where man is cast against man for other no reason than to satisfy the bloodlust of your piece of shit god????? FUCK GOD
Deuteronomy 21 18:21
A Rebellious Son
18 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
Nothing vague about THAT commandment is there? You are wasteful or an alcholic? You must be PUT TO DEATH.
Deuteronomy 22
20 If, however, the charge [that the girl isn't a virgin] is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.
22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death-the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help (!), and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.
25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, 27 for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [3] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
Girls, heed the warning, if you are being raped SCREAM.
Christian morality--> raping an engaged woman is a worse crime than raping a not engaged woman.
Again, VERY SPECIFIC. you can't deny it. this is GOD'S WORD. who the hell are you to go against god!
Deuteronomy 13
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people.
did u get that thunder? you must STONE ME. don't disappoint god now. be a good christian and MURDER the unbeliever.
deuteronomy 17
2 If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, 3 and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky, 4 and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, 5 take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. 6 On the testimony of two or three witnesses a man shall be put to death, but no one shall be put to death on the testimony of only one witness.
i like deuteronomy, don't you? it sure doesn't mince words. a crystal clear guide to life as a proper christian.
Numbers 15
32 While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34 and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35 Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." 36 So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses.
where's the MERCY? where's the LOVE? the COMPASSION?
Numbers 31
1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people."
then, after the battle:
13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army-the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds-who returned from the battle.
15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
! outrageous. WAR CRIMINAL.
Leviticus 24
13 Then the LORD said to Moses: 14 "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. 15 Say to the Israelites: 'If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; 16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.
nothing ambiguous about that. how many people have you killed yet thunderbolt?
none! you mean to wilfully disoboey THE LAW OF GOD? no heaven for you buddy..
is THIS the kind of world you offer thunderbolt?
one where man is cast against man for other no reason than to satisfy the bloodlust of your piece of shit god????? FUCK GOD
"If I Were the Devil..."
by
Paul Harvey
If I were the Prince of Darkness,
I would want to engulf the whole world in darkness. And I would have one-third of the real estate and four-fifths of the population , but I wouldn't be happy until I had the ripest apple on the tree. So I'd set about, however necessary, to take over the United States.
I'd subvert the churches first; I'd begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: "Do as you please."
To the youth I would whisper, "The Bible is a myth."
I would convince them that man made God instead of the other way around.
I would confide that what's bad is good and what's good is "square."
In the ears of the young married I would whisper that work is debasing, that cocktail parties are good for you.
And to the old I would teach to pray after me: "Our Father, who art in Washington..."
And then I'd get organized; I'd educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting, so that everything else would appear dull and uninteresting.
I'd threaten television with dirtier movies and vice versa.
I'd peddle narcotics to whom I could; I'd sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction; I'd tranquilize the rest with pills.
If I were the Devil I'd soon have families at war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves; until each in its turn was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings I'd have mesmerizing media fanning the flames.
If I were the Devil I'd encourage schools to refine young intellects but neglect to discipline emotions: let those run wild. Before you know it, you'd have to have drug-sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every school house door. Within a decade I'd have prisons overflowing.
With flattery and promises of power I would get the courts to do what I construe as against God and in favor of pornography.
I'd designate an atheist to front for me before the highest courts and I'd get the preachers to say, "She's right." Thus, I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the Houses of Congress.
And in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion and deify science. I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys, girls, and church money.
If I were the Devil I would make the symbol of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle.
If I were the Devil I'd take from those who have and give it to those who want it, until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious.
What'll you bet that I couldn't get whole States to promote gambling as the way to get rich?
I would caution against extremes: in hard work, in patriotism, and in moral conduct.
I would convince the youth that marriage is old-fashioned, but swinging is more fun; that what you see on television is the way to be; and thus I could undress you in public and I could lure you into bed where there are diseases for which there is no cure.
Then I would separate families, putting children in uniform, women in coal mines and objectors in slave-labor camps.
In other words, if I were the Devil, I'd just keep doing what he's doing.
by
Paul Harvey
If I were the Prince of Darkness,
I would want to engulf the whole world in darkness. And I would have one-third of the real estate and four-fifths of the population , but I wouldn't be happy until I had the ripest apple on the tree. So I'd set about, however necessary, to take over the United States.
I'd subvert the churches first; I'd begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: "Do as you please."
To the youth I would whisper, "The Bible is a myth."
I would convince them that man made God instead of the other way around.
I would confide that what's bad is good and what's good is "square."
In the ears of the young married I would whisper that work is debasing, that cocktail parties are good for you.
And to the old I would teach to pray after me: "Our Father, who art in Washington..."
And then I'd get organized; I'd educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting, so that everything else would appear dull and uninteresting.
I'd threaten television with dirtier movies and vice versa.
I'd peddle narcotics to whom I could; I'd sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction; I'd tranquilize the rest with pills.
If I were the Devil I'd soon have families at war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves; until each in its turn was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings I'd have mesmerizing media fanning the flames.
If I were the Devil I'd encourage schools to refine young intellects but neglect to discipline emotions: let those run wild. Before you know it, you'd have to have drug-sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every school house door. Within a decade I'd have prisons overflowing.
With flattery and promises of power I would get the courts to do what I construe as against God and in favor of pornography.
I'd designate an atheist to front for me before the highest courts and I'd get the preachers to say, "She's right." Thus, I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the Houses of Congress.
And in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion and deify science. I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys, girls, and church money.
If I were the Devil I would make the symbol of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle.
If I were the Devil I'd take from those who have and give it to those who want it, until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious.
What'll you bet that I couldn't get whole States to promote gambling as the way to get rich?
I would caution against extremes: in hard work, in patriotism, and in moral conduct.
I would convince the youth that marriage is old-fashioned, but swinging is more fun; that what you see on television is the way to be; and thus I could undress you in public and I could lure you into bed where there are diseases for which there is no cure.
Then I would separate families, putting children in uniform, women in coal mines and objectors in slave-labor camps.
In other words, if I were the Devil, I'd just keep doing what he's doing.
God was simply cleaning up the community. Removing the bad apples if you will. Sin and evil will be sentenced to death. You can curse the creator all you want, but it will be much harder to do so in the fiery furnace. You say I am illogical to be in the most high God's corner, but I'd say you are illogical to play for and die with the losing team(satan). You will be residing with people like Hitler, Stalin, people of Al Queda, murders, rapists and so on since you all choose to be against the creator of the universe. It's one or the other--GOD or satan. There's no in between. You can go with the god of this secular world(satan) or the most high God of the universe who will eventually destroy all unrighteousness. The path is narrow, yet attainable. So curse all you want, tell yourself all the foolish lies and huff and puff until death. I just don't understand why.