Immortality?!

Quote from aphexcoil:

If we weren't here, where would we be? Since nonexistence is impossible. You cannot have nonexistence. There is a simple theory for this.

Hypothesis: "Non-existence exists."

a) In order to have nonexistence, it must be in contrast to the state of existence.
b) We currently exist, therefore existence does exist.
v) If non-existence existed, then it would not be non-existent to begin with.
d) How can something be non-existent if the state of not existing is actually existing in some state?
e) Therefore non-existence cannot be possible.

It is logically impossible to have any state of non-existence.
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aphie, a scientific person like you should not be religious. you should work on getting that bs out of your system.

only trying to help...

p.s. death = nothingness. it's the same as before birth. we all already know what death is like. just think about what your life was like a million years ago and you know what death is like.
 
Quote from daniel_m:

how long do you think humanity is gonna last for? another 5000 years? another 20,000? another 1million? MORE? FOREVER?

it's gotta be millions of years. gotta be. i mean, think about it, the dinosaurs pulled it off, why not us?

i find it mind boggling to think about really. sucks i'm not gonna be around to see it! (nice one Gawd!:mad: )

how's it gonna end? i doubt we'd be dumb enough to nuke each other out of existance... shit, i think even the concept of war itself will be pretty much eradicated, definitely within the next 1000 years . also by that time i'm prety sure religion's just gonna be sidebar of antiquity. so we're not gonna have any of these muslim fuckos disturbing the balance..

some interstellar catastrophe? that seems the most imminent danger. hopefully we find some way of dealing with any errant asteroids by then. what a pity it would be for humanity to get cut short by a fluke incident like that.

we'd also better find some other planet to inhabit. surely we could find a way to populate the moon and mars. beyond? who knows. we'd need some pretty zippy quick travelling aparatus if we're gonna traverse galactic distances..cos we're also gonna need a new solar system after our sun buys the farm..
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good post daniel_m

i think it's interesting to think about the consequences of the sun's red giant stage. as many of you know, stars go through stages. when our sun is in the red giant stage, it will be so large that it will engulf our planet.

so, next time you look up at the sun...just think, someday we're all probably gonna be in it. who knows what the future holds, though.
 
Quote from Gordon Gekko:


i think it's interesting to think about the consequences of the sun's red giant stage. as many of you know, stars go through stages. when our sun is in the red giant stage, it will be so large that it will engulf our planet.
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how far off is that gekko? is there a certain point in a star's life that it begins to undergo this stage? or is it "growing" (however minutely) even as we speak?

since i posted that i just can't stop thinking of what life will be like in times to come. especially since "modern" mankind is still in his infancy!

we only started to band together and form small farming communities about 10,000 years ago. that's pretty quick progress from there to where we are now. try imaging life in the year 342,948 CE ? lol. i simply have no freakin idea. but, barring any cosmic catastrophe or life destroying diseases we WILL get there (most likely). that's the bit i find titillating - it's GONNA HAPPEN. damn i wish i could see it!
 
hey hey,

interesting thread. i could never understand those who would not want to live forever or at least several hundred years. i believe that science will soon extend our lives dramatically. i looked into "cryogenics" and was not impressed with what i found. the theory is cool ( lol ), but the people who are in charge of ALCOR--- the cryo company--- are seriously lacking imho. it was disapointing viewing their website, don't think i would trust my eternity to the folks at ALCOR.

all the best,

surf:)
 
GG, daniel_m would you consider this.......

when you snuff it, get yourself sent off in a communal (keeps the cost down) coffin spaceship , probably called USA Mortuary Explorer.
As your demise is a long way off yet, genetics will at least develop a drug which will stop tissue degeneration. Your body would be contained in a hermetically sealed unit (with a little camping stove to keep your feet warm). That would be better than cryogenics. At least there's a sperm's chance in heaven you would be recalled by earth to be regenerated. Imagine waking up in the year 3050 with the greeting "Welcome Back. At this point we would like to advise you owe $200billion in insurance fees".
Just don't get sent with Aphie though. Playing boring mind games for 1000 odd years would just be so not fun.:D
 
Quote from stu:

when you snuff it, get yourself sent off in a communal (keeps the cost down) coffin spaceship , probably called USA Mortuary Explorer.
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when i think about being buried or cremated, i always think this would be the coolest: when you die, your body is put in a coffin spaceship, and you are just blasted somewhere into space. they could make some calculations to make sure you don't land on mars, etc. i'd want to be sent completely out of our solar system. who knows where i'd end up. that would be cool. maybe i'd land on another inhabited planet and be verification for them that aliens exist.
 
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