immigrants headed home

[swtrader]

Quote from zdreg:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20090303/bs_bw/feb2009tc20090228990934

locusts always move on, once the field is barren

 

[swtrader]

Quote from Anaconda:

HB1 Visa workers are not exactly skilled. They are just dirt cheap. As the saying, you get what you pay for. You can throw them a thanks for the declining quality of service & IT products in the US.

H-1b has destroyed American tech workers, and American tech quality

Systems written in the 1980s and early 1990s still runs

much of code delivered today is junk and never usable

 

[IanMacQuaide]

Quote from ynchowdary:

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It's not really that, as China is quite totalitarian and so is India. Neither are the fairy tales they are made out to be, even as a wealthy person there you have to become very desentisized and essentially sell your soul.

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wow!, India is totalitarian? What planet are you living on? It is the largest democracy in the world. It has it's own share of problems like every other country. But governments change in elections if the people don't like it.

Their "CASTE" system keeps them from progressing.

 

[swtrader]

Quote from swtrader:

H-1b has destroyed American tech workers, and American tech quality

Systems written in the 1980s and early 1990s still runs

much of code delivered today is junk and never usable

H-1b has brought Indian organized crime to Iowa

http://www.computerworld.com/action...articleId=9127943&taxonomyId=72&intsrc=kc_top

Sex slavery to california

http://gawker.com/5163257/sexual-predator-ceo-accused-of-running-eastern-european-sex-ring

and that's just in the last month

 

[IShopAtPublix]

Quote from Angrycat:

Exactly. And without skilled immigrants, who will the entrepreneurs hire? Walk into any math, engineering, economics or finance program in any university in America and count the number of American faces. There are almost none. Americans have become lazy. They're all doing majors like "women's studies" (a.k.a. "lessons on the acquisition of government cheese").

That is a popular myth justfying the opening of the spigot for H1B visas.

Engineering in this country is not worth it in terms of effort/pay out. If you could get an accounting degree and with minimum effort get 40-45K out of college or you can get an engineering degree and get 50-53(not civil engineering!) but you have to be a good boy in math, Physics, Chemistry, THROUGHOUT YOUR WHOLE ACADEMIC CAREER then it is not worth it at all. Engineering is by far the hardest BS degree there is (I am not including Math/Hard sciences since they are related)

It is not that American youths are somehow more lazy it is that more and more people are diverting their efforts to fields where pay out vs effort is significantly easier. I made that same decision in college even though I wanted to be an engineer in the beginning.

 

[Anaconda]

Quote from ynchowdary:

wow!, India is totalitarian? What planet are you living on? It is the largest democracy in the world. It has it's own share of problems like every other country. But governments change in elections if the people don't like it.

The whole country is corrupt beyond belief, its democracy is a joke & a sham. Well, democracy is general is a sham, just look into the meaning of the word. Regardless, 80%+ of the people in India have no real rights nor voice, they are just serfs. Everyone who thinks India is sooo great just looks at the tiny middle class and ignores most of the nation.

 

[swtrader]

Quote from Anaconda:

The whole country is corrupt beyond belief, its democracy is a joke & a sham. Well, democracy is general is a sham, just look into the meaning of the word. Regardless, 80%+ of the people in India have no real rights nor voice, they are just serfs. Everyone who thinks India is sooo great just looks at the tiny middle class and ignores most of the nation.

and that's why our elite worships India so much

a vicious, rigorously enforced caste system, with almost no middle class

Indians bring indentured servitude and their caste system ways to the USA, licking the corporate boot above, pissing on anyone one notch below

 

[Anaconda]

Quote from swtrader:

and that's why our elite worships India so much

a vicious, rigorously enforced caste system, with almost no middle class

China is the better business model for the elites.
India is a little too progressive for them. Too many documentaries & films exposing the myth. "Slumdog Millionaire" type movie would have never been filmed in China. They are very straightforward in China, they just lock you up.

 

[ynchowdary]

Quote from swtrader:

and that's why our elite worships India so much

a vicious, rigorously enforced caste system, with almost no middle class

Indians bring indentured servitude and their caste system ways to the USA, licking the corporate boot above, pissing on anyone one notch below

It looks like you are angry and hateful ... may be some therapy and anger management classes will do the trick.

 

[Specterx]

Quote from Anaconda:

Everyone who thinks India is sooo great

You would have to be crazy to think this, unless you happen to be from India. Always a place in your heart for your home country, but I always think of that scene from Seinfeld: "India is a dreadful, dreadful place..."

Hot, massively overcrowded, poor, tremendously inefficient government. India does make a respectable effort at Western-style democracy, I have to give 'em that, but it's still a third-world country. Lots of Indians are hard-working, good studies and so on but IMO there are just too many people in the country for most Indians to ever have a decent standard of living. Sort of the same problem that we see in the world at large.