immigrants headed home

is this good for the future of the US

  • yes

    Votes: 53 53.5%
  • no

    Votes: 40 40.4%
  • unsure

    Votes: 6 6.1%

  • Total voters
    99
Quote from anotherhawkeye:

Well people in H1B are not exceptionally smart or skilled. They are about the same your American IT worker but filled a very important role pre-2000 because of the massive need for programmers during y2k.

I like H1B if its used as in pre-2000. Good, hard working people come to US, stay for 6-7 years, gain permanent residency, get citizenship all the while earning top dollars, paying their taxes and contributing to the society. It made american companies competitive and actually reduced the need for offshoring.

Now, what happened after 2000 was borderline criminal. Its used or rather abused by offshoring companies to bring techies on short-term trips to aid offshoring. For example, if your project is offshored, few people from offshore needs to come here and gather some knowledge about it. Offshoring companies use the H1B visa for this purpose. Those who come on H1B stay for short periods and do not contribute anything to US.

I think they should stop giving H1B for people to come here on short trips and r_pe america and its jobs.

and we all know that pre-2000 h-1b use had no influence whatsoever on the post 2000 h-1b use
 
"Immigrants can see the Socialistic swing coming in America... and they're saying SCREW THAT"

yeah, that sure scared the mexicans out

senior, do not go to USA, poor people swamp the social safety net system for freebies, you dont want any part of that

LOL
 
Please dont tar everyone with the same brush.

I used an H1B and went to grad school in a top ten ranked Univ in USA. I have never felt used or underpaid. H1B has many layers to it.

Also regarding your off shoring comment: Lets not forget that in a global economy you have to let the third world make money somehow so that they can consume products like coke and MTV and pay for it. You dump products and they pay in human capital.

Quote from Anaconda:

Uhm, I don't think you understand.



Unless, he was dirt cheap all around & had little worker's rights & had the illusion of being just as good due to a degree. Capitalism at its finest.

It's the same as Indian offshoring. Most of it is just a scam, nothing more. And ironically, borderline illegal as legal & financial firms send sensitive documents & records overseas without their clients knowing it.
 
Funny you mention that. I know more than a few OC born "caucasian" well educated guys who moved across the world to New Zealand. This started a few years ago.

They said they weren't happy with the quality of life and direction for their kids. At first I was shocked as i was waiting in line to get my residency. Now i wonder about their decision.

Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

not only that, many educated whites are now leaving america in unprecedented numbers...
 
Quote from swtrader:

"Immigrants can see the Socialistic swing coming in America... and they're saying SCREW THAT"

yeah, that sure scared the mexicans out

senior, do not go to USA, poor people swamp the social safety net system for freebies, you dont want any part of that

LOL

The article was about highly educated... masters degrees and PhDs.

Of course nobody is going to leave when he gets free ice cream...
 
Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

The Zogby results are shocking – especially compared to the entire U.S. population (now about 303,116,000). The numbers below are for households, not individuals.
• 1.6 million U.S. households already decided to move offshore and are headed in that direction.
• Another 1.8 million households are seriously considering moving and are likely to do it. Many have taken preliminary steps.
• 7.7 million households are “somewhat seriously” considering moving and “may” do it.
• Nearly 3 million households are seriously considering buying a vacation home or other property outside the United States. Another 10 million are “somewhat” seriously considering it.
This means that almost 10% of U.S. households are considering leaving the country. Another 10% are considering living outside the country part-time. Most analysts are ignoring this silent massive emigration.
These would-be emigrant households plan to spend an average of US$260,000 on buying or building a house. They’re also planning to spend at least US$36,000 annually on living expenses outside the United States.
In total, they represent hundreds of billions of dollars leaving the U.S. economy each year.

http://www.boom2bust.com/2008/06/13/are-rich-americans-leaving-the-country/

If a person would leave because of a 4% increase their marginal tax rate (35-39%) let them go. But in reality, immigration is not something people will like. Where are they going to go? It may entail learning a new language becoming immersed into a new system. I am not concerned about this.
 
Quote from Anaconda:

It's not really that, as China is quite totalitarian and so is India. Neither are the fairy tales they are made out to be, even as a wealthy person there you have to become very desentisized and essentially sell your soul.

What this signals is what I have been saying for months. This nation is finished, its goose has been cooked.

U.S. is the capital of soul selling.
 
Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

The Zogby results are shocking – especially compared to the entire U.S. population (now about 303,116,000). The numbers below are for households, not individuals.
• 1.6 million U.S. households already decided to move offshore and are headed in that direction.
• Another 1.8 million households are seriously considering moving and are likely to do it. Many have taken preliminary steps.
• 7.7 million households are “somewhat seriously” considering moving and “may” do it.
• Nearly 3 million households are seriously considering buying a vacation home or other property outside the United States. Another 10 million are “somewhat” seriously considering it.
This means that almost 10% of U.S. households are considering leaving the country. Another 10% are considering living outside the country part-time. Most analysts are ignoring this silent massive emigration.
These would-be emigrant households plan to spend an average of US$260,000 on buying or building a house. They’re also planning to spend at least US$36,000 annually on living expenses outside the United States.
In total, they represent hundreds of billions of dollars leaving the U.S. economy each year.

http://www.boom2bust.com/2008/06/13/are-rich-americans-leaving-the-country/

Same thing happening in Germany (they even have a reality show about this). And guess where they are going: to the U.S.A!!!
 
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