If you want to fail as a trader, study TA

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Quote from jack hershey:

To explain the formula.

both cash and index are big numbers.

Their difference would just look like volume on a chart (meaning all the bars would stick up from an axis.)

By taking out (subtracting) the Premium, the bars can appear on either side of a horizontal neutral. Coloring the bars black and red makes it easy to see a trade sentiment. Premium is a "fair" neutral value of the difference of cash and index.

For those who are skilled at "reading" the markets, the pattern also appears on the S/S chart as three successive portions (dominant, non dominant and dominant).

Long ago in the days of ticker tape, the triads were known to some and others just did "up" and "down". Usually, anger resulted on the part of the up and downer's. Fear and anxiety preceded this anger. A good read is Lo (MIT) who measured the big money guys in terms of their anxiety, fear and anger. None he measured were traders in the intraday sense of making money.

Here in this simple math we are just looking at divergence from the mean in MLR where the smart money leads the MLR.

RTM is an "after effect" of the leading indicator (sentiment shift) being invoked. the markets are largely couterintuitive and taking the market's offer is what is being demonstrated in my posts. People mostly confuse my posts as being in the CW box. That box is the financial industry box where the industry makes money on a fees and commision basis instead ofdealing with the market's offer. These are two different fields of endeavor. This thread is a CW oriented thread.

I really do not want to "take over" this thread. So please do not afford me any further "chances".

here is HE, a monkey be
he knows it all, and make it small
with maths he croak, and make a joke
a frog u see, with little wee:D

most annoying thing, and when he sing
it not like note, that markets quote
he speaks of much, and think it such
that fractal be, the key you see

a fractal be, a term u see
that fools do use, to cover bruise
they only know, what they been show
and that you see, is plain can be

the plan is out, a friend do shout
for he is told, to say in bold
that HE is right, and seldom fright
but truth is clear, HE in fear

just stop and think, what in the ink
it is all bull, nonsense in full
a child can SEE, how wrong it be
for facts are so, that need not know

the key to SEE, what others be
to look for cents, in common sense
no sense be there, then you best scare
for fools you SEE, cost YOU MONEY:D

so when u see, a fool like HE
just say FUK OFF, you stupid toff
away u go, and play the show
with fools who be, what others SEE:D

words are small, and may look tall
a chart is fact, and cause to act
all else is fluff, and make it thuf
to help you SEE, that B is BE:cool:

TE
 
Quote from schizo:

Yeah, I said that out of spite for you know whom.

Don't tell me it's "integrated analysis" because what the OP espouses and tries to share here is by no means integrated. It's "idiotic" in my not-so-humble opinion. Anyway, this will be my last post on this thread.

 
Quote from Mysteron:

Draw a box around it, or at least around the limits of its expected variation.

As far as I recall, no one has actually asked, what is meant by Time=Money?

Although everyone must surely think they know, as it sounds so obvious. Is it mean't just as a common saying or is there some deeper meaning?

It may be wise to listen to what RN has to say, for, it is clear that he is speaking common sense.

Time?

What is Time?

Some spacers will tell you that Time is an illusion

Others will tell you that Time is not important

Few will tell you that Time is of the utmost importance

Time is what YOU make of it


TE
 
Quote from Airwaves:

use TIME to make GOOD money!

AS, what the FUK are you on about:eek:

Are any of YOU listening to what RN is saying at all:eek:

Holy shit:mad:

Look here, if you want to make money in this fukin game, then you need to get your head out of the fukin sand and start thinkin!!!!!!!!

No more wishy washy stupid fukin statements, OK:eek:

If one wants to learn anything of value, then one needs to think before they act, and this goes for posting in this thread, OK!

And, when the likes of JH and that psyco fool pop their stupid fukin heads up again, tell them to FUK OFF and stop wasting time, for, as we all KNOW by now, Time = Money

RN has been kind enough to OFFER, then, why the FUK don't you ALL get off your lazy fukin arses and do some thinkin.

If you want to waste time speaking shite with idiots who know sweet fuk all about everything, then, there are 1000's of threads to choose from on this site, and all the other sites as well.

For the odd few that are ABLE and WILLING to THINK, this might well be your chance to fit some of those jigsaw pieces together, but as always, the choice is yours, always has been, and always will be:D

TE

Fuk, what the Fuk is wrong with people these days, too much fukin about on stupid fukin internet forums:)
 
IA

We know the "A" stands for Analysis, and the question now is, what does the "I" really mean?

Of course, the "I" is the most important thing for everything you do, but, I have a feeling that RN is pointing towards a different meaning.

Some have asked how come TE came up with different S&R numbers for CEPH, and, the answer, believe it or not, is one of the very first basics that is presented in the TA field:)

Remember, we are not saying that TA is useless, as some have rightly argued that when you look at a chart you are using TA, but, what we are saying is that the shit load of mathematical indicators, which I need not name, are nothing short of pseudo science, and, some are just self fulfilling, as is the case of fibs with currencies, thanks to the many automated programs now running.

So, currencies aside, let us stick to US Stocks and Index Ftrs for these discussions, and, if anyone wants to speak about currencies, then fuk off to another thread, OK:D

In order to learn anything of value we must focus, and, believe it or not, many find it impossible to focus, for OBVIOUS reasons:eek:

TE
 
Quote from Redneck:

TE,

I know you don’t think much of TA – although it could be argued price, lines, $TICK, others :D are part of TA

And I’m certain FA does not come in to play intraday


So for you – I have coined new category – IA

Care to take a stab at the meaning… then we’ll see if you agree


Hint
A = Analysis

The I – well it has two possible meanings – the obvious one being Intellectual, but as for the second meaning – I wonder what it could be… :eek: :)

RN

Individual Analysis?
 
Quote from The Expert:

There is one thing certain about TIME, and, that is;

Time Never Stands Still

We also know that Time = Money

therefore,

Money Never Stands Still

How do you catch something that never stands still?

I reckon this one will be got by RN, if he is looking in:D

TE

Money doesn't stand still, but it doesn't flow into the market & go on a never-ending path upward either. So if you missed the 1st move up, then wait until some time has gone by , and catch it when it comes back down.........................as long as you think it'll go back up again.
 
Quote from The Expert:

...RN has been kind enough to OFFER, then, why the FUK don't you ALL get off your lazy fukin arses and do some thinkin...

...this might well be your chance to fit some of those jigsaw pieces together...
TE

Fuk, what the Fuk is wrong with people these days, too much fukin about on stupid fukin internet forums:)

I've been thinking who the 5th person might be, and why the first three popped up for a while only to slink back into the shadows, and then TE popped up :cool:

Anything written here can be read by the masses so I feel reluctant to spell out what I'm thinking about, especially as its taken me considerable time and effort to built up a picture, and time is extremely precious to me. Thats why, when I gave a response to FA, I did not give a straight answer, although I hope a helpful one - in the spirit of the 'think for yourself theme'. One way to find out what a term means is simply to read the entire thread, or ask for someone else to give the answer. Why not just search, by which I mean click on the print icon at the top right of the page to get a searcheable html file of the entire thread.

I could draw a diagram of a typical reversal chart pattern that has got my interest, how it looks on a higher TF in terms of OHLC bars, how it looks if the sampling is offset a bit, the lower TF S shaped bit in the middle, WRB followed by NRB, then the start of the reversal, if indeed thats what it is. I don't feel that I should do that though as it would possibly benefit those who lurk.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dce_1195255901
 
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