"If there were no God, there would be no atheists

Quote from stu:

Dude,
You're talking about worshipping some imaginary being for an eternity who in the stories of it , behaves worse than Pol Pot .
What sort of hell is it like walking around with that emotional monkey on your back.

I'm sure otherwise you are a nice guy but please, where has your integrity gone ?
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As it was said earlier trust only your heart... not what your eyes may see or read...
 
and furthermore how you will live under it... don't be to afraid... as he is all loving, he will pardon our mistakes... ( however only if we recognize them... :cool: )

Peace = Proper Education Always Corrects Errors
 
Quote from stu:

Existence has God beat , so the only thing an Optional theist can think of is to try and turn God into Existence.
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Yep it's a desperate trick. Superman may be the most powerful superhero but he still pure fiction, and trumped by the fact that he does not Exist.

As I tried (and apparently failed) to get across, it is possible for something to be infinite and still be less than a greater infinity.

It turns out that 2^n is always greater than n, whether n is zero, positive, negative, or even transfinite! There is no final transfinite number.

God can be infinite and still be only the smallest infinity there is. And the fact that these transfinite numbers are purely the product of human minds proves that Man trumps God.
 
Quote from SNBthetrue:

Dudes,

Please don't spend your time on this... Follow only this rules and everything will be easy :

"That which you hate to be done to you, do not do to another"
"Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. ” Mohammad
that the negative version and now the positive one :

"And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise." luke

"He sought for others the good he desired for himself. Let him pass."

"That which you want for yourself, seek for mankind.”


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule_(ethics)

The sage has no interest of his own, but takes the interests of the people as his own. He is kind to the kind; he is also kind to the unkind: for Virtue is kind. He is faithful to the faithful; he is also faithful to the unfaithful: for Virtue is faithful. ”
— Chapter 49, Tao Teh Ching


And finaly the one, that without it as no meaning :

Luke 10:25-28

"And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live."

Please, listen to your heart.
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You've got to excuse stew , he's just pissed the Catholic church refuses to endorse buggery and thus turned down his services.
 
kut2k2,

you are very smart... may I had to your clever point that equation or not doesn't change the reality...

Oh and trying to answer God trough equation is impossible... Don't even try... it's a trap... it will only lead to a exponential quest... And only God understand the infinite exponential...

Likewise, AI and AC will not be able to understand everything human sees... love. Or the day it's done, you are. Even AC or AI will not be able to understand what happen to him/her/it... it will be a feeling... that's it.
 
Quote from Index piker:

You've got to excuse stew , he's just pissed the Catholic church refuses to endorse buggery and thus turned down his services.
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Dear Index piker,

If only they could understand PEACE... They clearly don't deserve to have the name of Jesus Christ on the front...

Catholic, what and where do you see catholic value in their Organisation ?

Did you remember the word of the Christ to Paul ? They must have hurt his heart so much...
 
Peace :

I don't know who is the person who fucked everything on the catholic church...

However could they have think that by accumulating wealth they would be able to fullfill the task that Jesus asked them to do ? While at the same time 37000 children die each day ?

Did they understand that God would have provide all they could have needed ?
 
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And the fact that these transfinite numbers are purely the product of human minds proves that Man trumps God.
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That's quite possibly the stupidest statement I've ever heard.
 
Furthermore look at all the ancient prophets... No one of them was a member of an existing church...

If this fact could put a new light on their teachings... ( always the same... )
 
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