"If there were no God, there would be no atheists

[stu]

Quote from jficquette:
God doesn't exist in time and space so the idea of "Before" is not applicable relative to our frame of reference.

Quote from Index piker:
This is the gibberish you think profound?

See? The thing you call "the gibberish" originated right there with jficquette
The problem with only considering one side of an issue is you're showing blind ignorance to all the other parts of it .

Quote from Index piker:
Knock yourself out,I'm not buying your drivel.

That's most likely best.
If you had half a clue you'd probably be dangerous.

 

[stu]

Quote from BernardRichards:
At least show us that you pay attention Stu by at least getting my name right after communicating with me over several dozen posts in period of about 2 years. My name is Bernard Richards -- not Bernard Roberts.

I think your atheism is slowly causing dementia in your brain!

So then, achnowledgement at least that it WAS you, not Bernard Roberts , who was on the road into blind ranting sophistry and blaming others for it.

Quote from BernardRichards:

God is posited as a First Cause

So come on BernardRichards do you have

Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Any argument to back that up?

Well do you? Anything apart from those magic genie lanterns you offered up, or more of your sophistry ?

However you might do well to note ; Existence is not on your side

 

[Index piker]

Quote from Index piker:

from stu:



The irreducible principle, the first cause cannot be god . It would have to be existence.
Nothing exists without existence .

This is the gibberish you think profound?

Fine, post a picture of an "existence"

 

[OPTIONAL777]

You commit a logical fallacy (argument from ignorance) and then you need to rephrase (which changes the meaning and intent) in your so called argument?

LOL!!!

Quote from kut2k2:

It's your own ignorance that's on full display here, 777.

777: "Existence could not be one aspect of God?"

To rephrase:

"Existence could not be one aspect of the very thing the existence of which is called into question in this thread?"

My mistake was expecting you to be smart enough to draw a reasonable conclusion by way of analogy. I wasn't appealing to ignorance, I was appealing to analogy. My bad.

Yours, as always, is willful ignorance.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

However you might do well to note ; Existence is not on your side

Existence takes a side?

LOL!!!

Watching you grasp and thrash around for answers is indeed amusing...

You might do well to note that non existence exists only in the mind as a concept, not in any measurable reality...

God doesn't just exist, God is existence itself. God exists within God's own existence. Non existence of God is only a concept in the mind of angry atheists like yourself...

Quote from stu:

So then, achnowledgement at least that it WAS you, not Bernard Roberts , who was on the road into blind ranting sophistry and blaming others for it.


So come on BernardRichards do you have

Well do you? Anything apart from those magic genie lanterns you offered up, or more of your sophistry ?

However you might do well to note ; Existence is not on your side

 

[BernardRichards]

Quote from stu:

So then, achnowledgement at least that it WAS you, not Bernard Roberts , who was on the road into blind ranting sophistry and blaming others for it.


So come on BernardRichards do you have [proof]

Well do you? Anything apart from those magic genie lanterns you offered up, or more of your sophistry ?

However you might do well to note ; Existence is not on your side

You are so smart Stu. Even when you have proven yourself to be suffering from atheistic dementia you find a way out. You make all atheists proud!

O' great one Stu the Atheist, how does one have proof for a definition? By definition in the cosmological argument God and First Cause are the same thing.

I must say Stu you have become increasingly bitter in your old age. Atheism has that effect on its adherents.

 

[stu]

Quote from Index piker:

Fine, post a picture of an "existence"

"This is the gibberish you think profound? "


If you require pictures and can only understand by pictures, maybe you should first go find yourself a picture of the original "gibberish"....
"God doesn't exist in time and space ......"

 

[stu]

You theist guys really are stuffed.
outside of ad hominem or absurdity it's perfectly obvious no argument exists for you to produce as evidence for your shared imaginary God friend.

 

[stu]

Quote from BernardRichards:

By definition in the cosmological argument God and First Cause are the same thing.

Why not get yourself up to date and perhaps a little education in the cosmological argument wouldn't go amiss.

You should be aware the Prime Movers cosmological argument has had its foundations severely undermined since Aristotle’s time.
Certain molecules don't even need a mover or cause.
They are their own first cause.
Even the simplest structural unit of an element can do what only imaginary God is supposed to be able to achieve.
Get with the script Bernard<s>Madoff</s> Richards.


....come to think of it, you seem to be confusing the Cosmological argument with its variation the Kalam.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

...as if you never use ad hominem or absurdity...

...and you stake claim as rational.

Too rich, just too rich!!!

Quote from stu:

You theist guys really are stuffed.
outside of ad hominem or absurdity it's perfectly obvious no argument exists for you to produce as evidence for your shared imaginary God friend.