If the left won... why are they such losers

[jem]

look I said congrats and did not want to make excuses or be a poor sportsman... So I moved on. But you leftist fools keep gloating and actin like I was incorrect because Romney lost. You missed the whole point of that thread... from my perspective and what I was writing about.

It shows how ignorant most of you lefties are of what really happened and how helpful the media was for Obama.

In the spring and summer I told you all.... D plus 14 and D plus 21 and D plus 11 samples were ridiculous... I stated Obama would get fewer votes than 2008. If you recall right before the election even axelrod agreed with that point.

I was 100 percent vindicated.
I also said the polls would unslant themselves by election day.
They absolutely did.

I and many of the polls also overstated Romney enthusiasm vs results.
I wonder if that was a function of who speaks to pollsters or the enthusiasm faded by election day.

But nevertheless... I was 100 percent correct the polls would unslant by election day.

If you recall you started to get pissed the polls had changed their samples about a month or two out.

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The results of the election show you dont know much about polls ,history and elections jem.Rather then arguing and continuing to defend a 6 month 500 page losing position take some time and educate yourself on the subject buddy

 

[bigarrow]

The jem doth protest too much, methinks

 

[jem]

maybe I am protesting too much.

but the early pools were very slanted and they became less slanted and that is why I got animated.

 

[nutmeg]

What a bunch of swell guys those Democrats. Yuppers. they are the only one offering advice on what went wrong and what the reps need to do. I'd bet that's what Romney found out when he went to lunch with Barry at the crib. Barry probably offered some advice on how to win the black vote (invite Al Sharpton to a finance meeting).

"Eat more chinese food Mitt. those Asians will love you long time."

And quit walking around saying "qué hora es". Time for you to talk up amnesty.

"And for crissakes Mitt, put the toilet seat down."

 

[Spike Trader]

Quote from jem:

maybe I am protesting too much.

Jem . . . with due respect but you have to remember the '' honeymoon '' period is 100 days..

 

[mrbill]

Quote from jem:

Mr. bill I appreciate your question.

But it is far to early to tel.

As I hinted earlier to me the most important issues are related to economics.

I completely believe we are over taxed and more taxing hurts our GDP and our govt revenues. I believe the President advisor Romer is correct.

But, I also know our economy adjusts.
if it adjusts quickly the left will get away with this gdp destruction.
If they do... I have no idea what the right will do.

I suspect it wont matter... Hillary will run away with it.
If they Obamacare and its taxes and we get even more taxes... I suspect we will go back into a recession... if it lasts long enough housing will re implode.

At that point in time...

The message will be lower flatter taxes and lower govt spending.
If I were to run it would be simple.

Capped spending.
No borrowing.
No income taxes
Flat 15% corporate tax on anyone doing business here.
And single payer with optional supplemental insurance.
My message would be American businesses need to compete with the world and getting rid of their legacy health care will help.
The drug companies will go nuts... but they will be selling drugs to the US health care system at much lower margins.

But we also will not be paying for viagra or womens birth control and things of that nature.

I will institute new guidelines which show that if you do not have supplemental insurance... we will create cutoffs.

We will not be spending billions on premature babies who have limited survival rates. We will be giving 85 year olds free knee surgeries if a cain and some aspirin will do. etc.

Will that message win.
I doubt it... at first.... but it will someday... when are people are sick of inflation and handouts.

I believe in small govt and equality of opportunity. I think a good politician could come up with a better plan but with the same point.

lower taxes.. smarter and lower spending.

I agree with very much of what you say, we'll chat more soon.

 

[pspr]

IQ-47 is a real gem. Any monkey can be right once. It wasn't a matter of analysis for him and his brethren here, it was a matter of backing their horse no matter the apparent facts. It just turned out the freeloaders outnumbered the decent citizens by 2012.

Recent data shows Romney won the religious vote but lost the non-religious vote heavily. The heathens have spoken. Let them bask in their self imposed misery.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from pspr:

IQ-47 is a real gem. Any monkey can be right once. It wasn't a matter of analysis for him and his brethren here, it was a matter of backing their horse no matter the apparent facts. It just turned out the freeloaders outnumbered the decent citizens by 2012....

Exactly

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from jem:

I stated Obama would get fewer votes than 2008. If you recall right before the election even axelrod agreed with that point.

Everybody knew Obama would get fewer votes than 2008 jem .I agreed that Obama wouldn't get 2008 numbers but unlike you I said he didnt need them




http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...72&perpage=6&highlight=turnout&pagenumber=357

Quote from jem:09-14-12 03:41 PM




so what I said before I left still holds....
for Obama to win the democrats have to turnout like they did in 2008.

Quote from AK Forty Seven:09-14-12 03:50 PM

Obama won by more then 10 million votes last time,thats more then republicans beat democrats by in 2010.Obama does not need 2008 turn out numbers

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from pspr:

IQ-47 is a real gem. Any monkey can be right once. It wasn't a matter of analysis for him and his brethren here, it was a matter of backing their horse no matter the apparent facts. It just turned out the freeloaders outnumbered the decent citizens by 2012.

Recent data shows Romney won the religious vote but lost the non-religious vote heavily. The heathens have spoken. Let them bask in their self imposed misery.

Only a monkey as stupid as piss poor can get it this wrong over and over and over again on just about every issue

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I think AK may be right.
When Obama doesn't even get 200 electoral votes it's going to look like unskewedpolls.com was wrong saying he will get 217.

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My personal feeling is that they will NOT uphold the insurance mandate in ObamaCare

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Liberals everywhere are acclimating themselves to the fact that Obama is toast and Romney is going to be the next President.

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Regardless, it will be interesting to see if the judge decides to keep Obama off the ballot. I don't see how he can rule any other way.

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I'm still waiting for Obama's October surprise but the pollsters may be doing the democrat oversampling on purpose so his supporters don't see how bad he's really doing and don't pressure him to make something happen.

Quote from pspr:

The race hasn't even started yet. As mentioned in the analysis, "these polls will change". Other polls show just the opposite so it's better for people, at this stage, to be concerned you are behind than to get too confident in April.

Besides, we have all these and other shockers to come:

The Holder Contempt Trial
The Occupy Riots
The Black Riots
The Obama Historical Movie
More BC Revelations
The Summer Economic Slump
Possible Stubbornly High Gas Prices
Possible Stumbles in The Debates (Obama doesn't do good without a teleprompter)
Possible Inflation taking hold
October Surprises

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This is just sad.

I'm hoping "Fast And Furious" will turn out to be Obama's "Watergate". If we can get him out of the White House Biden will be inept and won't do more damage. Obama has more damage planned for the economy if he stays for another 18 months.

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I think they (Arabs, Palestinians and Obama) are trying to box Israel into a corner. Of course the Arabs would just love for Israel to defend itself and have the U.S. on the other side. This could be Obama's Watergate (or Waterloo).

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At least until we get to the October Marshall Law event. I've noticed even the Weather Service and the Social Security Administration are ordering tens of thousands of hollow point pistol rounds and the military has written a manual on dealing with civil disobedience.

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Then there is the October surprise. Israel attack on Iran, Obama military action somewhere, Obama push at civil disobedience, polling intimidation, etc. I don't know what, but if Obama is behind Romney in Ocotober he is going to do something shocking.

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I'm still waiting to see what the Obama manufactured event/crisis is going to be that supposedly will unite the country behind him in October. A failed (staged) assassination attempt would probably do it.

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Could this be how Obama tries to rally the country behind him before election day?

Possibility 1)
Picture the next and final debate on foreign policy. Midway through the debate a uniformed Army Officer walks out on the stage and whispers something in the President's ear. Moments later Obama announces to the nation that he is going to suspend the rest of the debate and make an announcement to the American people. Romney is ushered out of the room by the Secret Service.

The podium is transformed in seconds with the Shield of The President and teleprompter screens positioned on each side.

Obama proceeds to make a 60 minute pre-planned announcement that the attackers of the Libyan Consulate have been brought to justice and taken out by U.S. armed drones. He then precedes to outline in detail how his conflicting statements on Libya were designed to keep the terrorists off balance while they were being identified and located so they could be eliminated.
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Possibility 2)
During the debate a shot rings out and the President clutches his shoulder and falls to the ground. The perp (put up to the deed by the Obama Campaign) has fired a blank round but a device under the president's jacket has imparted a shallow wound to his shoulder.

The perp is hauled off to an undisclosed location and after treatment Obama says he will continue the debate with his right arm now in a sling and bandages apparent under his jacket.
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Either of these possibilities could throw a big monkey wrench into this election.