If the banks go.. so goes America!

That's the answer, let new entrepreneurs and visionaries create the banks of the future. Unfortunately, democrats don't believe this. Either way, freedom will prevailat the end and no matter what they do, only the strongest and honest banks will survive the crisis.
 
So let me get this straight. Our financial system created this mess in the first place, and the way to fix it is to bail out the system that caused it. Isn’t that sort of like curing lung cancer by smoking more cigarettes?

We need a complete overhaul with our financial system and the first step is to get rid of the Federal Reserve.
 
Quote from Sandybestdog:

So let me get this straight. Our financial system created this mess in the first place, and the way to fix it is to bail out the system that caused it. Isn’t that sort of like curing lung cancer by smoking more cigarettes?

We need a complete overhaul with our financial system and the first step is to get rid of the Federal Reserve.

The world is run by psychopaths.

This explains it:

http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/6025.aspx
 
First of all,

President Obama likely is deep in the pockets of the Global Financiers and others. Remember his political meeting with major bank officials in New York, you know, the one sponsored by Soros!

See, nothing has changed!

And another:

Why are Soros and Buffet involved and advising Obama about Government Financial affairs. They're Hedge Fund Managers and Owners; isn't that a conflict of interest and, possibly, Insider Trading problems?

:confused: :eek:
 
The Founding fathers warned us against democracy, and that is why they formed a republic instead.

But when the system became a kleptocracy with special interests buying Congressmen and Senators the law- making process became slave to special interests.

Thomas Jefferson said :

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

The banks ARE the problem, not the solution:

Enjoy "Armstrong Economics"

http://www.jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/martin-armstrong.pdf
 
Quote from ehmoran:

First of all,

President Obama likely is deep in the pockets of the Global Financiers and others. Remember his political meeting with major bank officials in New York, you know, the one sponsored by Soros!

See, nothing has changed!

And another:

Why are Soros and Buffet involved and advising Obama about Government Financial affairs. They're Hedge Fund Managers and Owners; isn't that a conflict of interest and, possibly, Insider Trading problems?

:confused: :eek:


Normally yes, there could be consideration of insider trading practice, but this is soros and buffett..they are not the usual trader.

They care about this world and have the capacity to break in pieces the system that made things so wrong, because they know what is going on.
 
Jefferson and Jackson would love to kill the central banks. So would I.


Quote from Enginer:

The Founding fathers warned us against democracy, and that is why they formed a republic instead.

But when the system became a kleptocracy with special interests buying Congressmen and Senators the law- making process became slave to special interests.

Thomas Jefferson said :

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

The banks ARE the problem, not the solution:

Enjoy "Armstrong Economics"

http://www.jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/martin-armstrong.pdf
 
Quote from Sandybestdog:

So let me get this straight. Our financial system created this mess in the first place, and the way to fix it is to bail out the system that caused it. Isn�t that sort of like curing lung cancer by smoking more cigarettes?

We need a complete overhaul with our financial system and the first step is to get rid of the Federal Reserve.

Well, government created so many distortions in the financial system that it collapsed. For example, the fact that Fan & Fred were allowed to buy non-conforming mortgages increased the desire to extend such mortgages. The Fed kept rates too low for too long after 9/11 and the burst tech bubble, encouraging lending.

The buildup of regulation over the years (which has continued unabated, despite the media's moaning that there's been all this deregulation) has only served to encourage industry insiders to buy politicians to write laws and regulations favourable to them. The resulting distortions are so bad that this financial system is complete trash and needs to be scrapped. I agree with you.

I disagree with the person who said that only the strongest banks will survive this. Only the most politically connected banks will survive this and the banks who were actually very competitive and didn't take excessive risks will be thrown under the bus as credit and customers are siphoned from them to prop up political darlings like Goldman Sachs and Citigroup.
 
Quote from jueco2005:

Jefferson and Jackson would love to kill the central banks. So would I.

President Jackson did kill the Central Bank.

The corrupt bastards brought it back sneakily as a 'private entity' on Jekyll Island, Georgia.
 
Quote from bat1:

The banks can't go under if they do, the markets will crash
and no more America.




By Julianna Goldman

Jan. 31 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama’s senior adviser, when asked whether the new administration will ban Wall Street bonuses, said “limiting some of this executive compensation” is necessary to rally public support for a financial-rescue plan.

David Axelrod, who was Obama’s chief strategist during the campaign, stopped short of embracing a ban on bonuses for companies receiving bailout funds. He left no doubt, however, that the administration will take tough steps to address the issue.

“It’s very hard for the American people to understand how a bank executive should get a multimillion dollar bonus at a time when he’s asking the government to essentially bail out his institution,” Axelrod said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt,” scheduled to air this weekend.

Obama, 47, expressed outrage this week after the New York state comptroller reported that Wall Street firms disbursed $18.4 billion in bonuses last year as the U.S. sank into a recession. While the figure represents a decline of 44 percent from the previous year amid record losses in the securities industry, the bonus pool was the sixth-largest ever, the comptroller said in a yearly report.

Geithner Plan

Axelrod said Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner will “have something to say about” bonuses as early as next week when he releases guidelines for banks receiving funds from the second half of the $700 billion financial rescue package.

The administration is committed to “a strong, private financial sector” in the bank bailout, Axelrod said when asked whether there are discussions to partially nationalize U.S. banks.

“Obviously, we’re trying to help these institutions on a temporary basis, but that’s our goal,” Axelrod said. “We’re going to provide assistance to these institutions and hope that they -- hope and expect that they’ll -- get back on their feet and that credit will flow.”

Financial experts and lawmakers including Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer of New York have said the government may need to spend more than $1 trillion to help the financial markets. Axelrod declined to discuss specific numbers, though he said the administration is crafting a plan that will “set up new rules of the road” for spending the remaining $350 billion of the rescue package approved under the Bush administration.

‘Trust’

“There are a variety of things that we need to do in order to win the trust and confidence of the American people,” Axelrod said. “And we’ll address these other issues down the road, but right now, we’ve got to work with what we’ve got.”

Axelrod defended Geithner, who sparked controversy during his confirmation hearings last week by saying Obama believes China is “manipulating its currency.”

“What Tim said was akin to what the president said during the campaign, these are issues that we have to work through,” Axelrod said. “We weren’t blazing new ground there.”

Obama spoke with President Hu Jintao of China this week following Geithner’s testimony. Axelrod wouldn’t say whether Obama reassured the Chinese leader on this issue.

Separately, Axelrod said the president will “make an announcement shortly” on his choice to lead the Commerce Department, the only Cabinet post left unfilled.

Judd Gregg

Speaking of Republican Senator Judd Gregg, a leading candidate for the position, Axelrod said the lawmaker and Obama “haven’t agreed on all issues,” though the president has “a great respect for his ability and for his seriousness about public service.”

Axelrod also expressed confidence the Senate would confirm former South Dakota Senator Tom Daschle, Obama’s choice as Health and Human Services secretary, whose tax records have come under scrutiny by Republicans on the Finance Committee.

“I think that he’s going to be confirmed,” Axelrod said.

Obama’s economic recovery plan cleared a hurdle this week with House passage of an $819 billion stimulus measure, which now goes to the Senate for approval.

Even though Obama took the unusual step of traveling to Capitol Hill to ask for support from Republican lawmakers, not a single House Republican voted for the bill.

Senate Republicans

Axelrod said he couldn’t predict whether any Republicans would support the package in the Senate, where the bill has grown to almost $900 billion.

“We’ll see,” Axelrod said. “You know, we’re hopeful. But the important thing is that a dialogue was opened. There were good discussions back and forth.”

He also said Obama would continue to try to set the tone of bipartisanship he pledged to bring to Washington during the campaign.

“Old habits die hard in this town,” Axelrod said. “There will be many instances in which there’ll be cooperation -- maybe not with every Republican, and maybe not with every Democrat -- but we’re going to forge coalitions behind all of our initiatives.”

Karl Rove, President George W. Bush’s former adviser, wrote this week that the Obama administration is trying to consolidate more power in the White House at the expense of the Cabinet by doubling the staff.

Axelrod said the larger staff reflects a “multidisciplinary kind of approach” to coordinate issues such as health care and global warming with their related Cabinet departments.

“I appreciate any advice that Karl Rove has,” he said. “But you know, they had their eight years and now we have our chance.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Julianna Goldman in Washington at jgoldman6@bloomberg.net.

lol no

Google, Apple, Rimm, Ma for example, don't need credit. There are many ocmpanies on the S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 that are thriving despite this fake media generated crisis.
 
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