If people with firearms could end attacks so quickly, why are so many cops shot and killed each year

Don't get upset Mr. exGOPer; everything will be fine! Just ride your unicorn back into liberal la la land where only you and fellow leftists are smart... where inanimate objects are evil but more than 40 million abortions are not. And where "common sense gun control" will stop killings, even though laws against murder out here don't. And please remember to take your meds!

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Typical Con debating with himself, quote me where I said guns are evil, quote me where I said abortions are not. I think conservatives are evil, does that mean I don't advocate for your liberty to speak or to get abortions if you choose? Gun control stopped killings in other developed nations, that's why it would work.

Oh and you are so clever to use the 'meds' line. Never heard that before. Post more memes dumbass.
 
Yeah.. but your eyes went up to heaven a bit when you read poindexter's comments?

P.S. A tyical colt .45 Magnum vs a 5.56 mm NATO round from a rifle? Both are devastating however.. from a ballistics perspective, huge differences. And this is part of the problem, an uninformed over-opinionated culture involving guys without military experience. The "I'm proud to be stupid" culture is too strong now in the US.

School shooters have a copy-cat mentality. Gasoline can kill more than any gun but they want the bang-bang with the sexy gun their shooter mentor used.

I will let other argue over ammo types who have expertise in this area. I have seen many variations of what is more deadly and at what range they are most lethal, etc. etc. etc.

Just keep in mind that the M1911 45 pistol was put into place after the Philippine-American war from February 4, 1899 to July 2, 1902

American units fighting Moro guerrillas during the Philippine–American War using the then-standard Colt M1892 revolver, .38 Long Colt, found it to be unsuitable for the rigors of jungle warfare, particularly in terms of stopping power, as the Moros had high battle morale and often used drugs to inhibit the sensation of pain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol#Early_history_and_adaptations

The U.S. army found both its rifles and pistols inadequate to put down a Moro in a single shot -- leading to the adoption of the 45 by the army -- leading some soldiers to carry private pistols of large caliber with adequate stopping power.

Even today... according to news commentary recently out of Fort Bragg... most people in the Army still view the M1911 45 pistol as the most lethal personal weapon at short range in the arsenal of our armed forces. "One shot and down".
 
I will let other argue over ammo types who have expertise in this area. I have seen many variations of what is more deadly and at what range they are most lethal, etc. etc. etc.

Just keep in mind that the M1911 45 pistol was put into place after the Philippine-American war from February 4, 1899 to July 2, 1902

American units fighting Moro guerrillas during the Philippine–American War using the then-standard Colt M1892 revolver, .38 Long Colt, found it to be unsuitable for the rigors of jungle warfare, particularly in terms of stopping power, as the Moros had high battle morale and often used drugs to inhibit the sensation of pain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol#Early_history_and_adaptations

The U.S. army found both its rifles and pistols inadequate to put down a Moro in a single shot -- leading to the adoption of the 45 by the army -- leading some soldiers to carry private pistols of large caliber with adequate stopping power.

Even today... according to news commentary recently out of Fort Bragg... most people in the Army still view the M1911 45 pistol as the most lethal personal weapon at short range in the arsenal of our armed forces. "One shot and down".

The 1911 will fire a standard .45 round at around 800-900 feet per second? A classic 3000 foot per second AR (rifle) round round carries a lot more energy..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_energy

Look up the joules of energy in the table.

For a billion bucks I'd take a shot to the vest from a 1911 ten feet away no sweat. I would not take a hit from an AR-15 or similar for any money.


Understand that both are lethal but an AR-15 is a whole other level. Fire through a door, no more armed teacher. A vest wearing security guard? Of the type he could wear all day (plates are heavy)?

It is too much gun for a crazy kid.
 
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The 1911 will fire a standard .45 round at around 800-900 feet per second? A classic 3000 foot per second AR (rifle) round round carries a lot more energy..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_energy

Look up the joules of energy in the table.

For a billion bucks I'd take a shot to the vest from a 1911 ten feet away no sweat. I would not take a hit from an AR-15 or similar for any money.


Understand that both are lethal but an AR-15 is a whole other level. Fire through a door, no more armed teacher. A vest wearing security guard? Of the type he could wear all day (plates are heavy)?

It is too much gun for a crazy kid.
Yes, let's talk about muzzle energy, Mr. Slartibartfast.

Here's a chart for multiple varieties of 223 ammunition:
http://www.ballistics101.com/223_remington.php

And here are the corresponding charts for two classes of far more powerful handguns.
http://www.ballistics101.com/460_sw.php
http://www.ballistics101.com/500_sw.php

Even you should be able to see the difference.
 
Typical Con debating with himself, quote me where I said guns are evil, quote me where I said abortions are not. I think conservatives are evil, does that mean I don't advocate for your liberty to speak or to get abortions if you choose? Gun control stopped killings in other developed nations, that's why it would work.

Oh and you are so clever to use the 'meds' line. Never heard that before. Post more memes dumbass.
Awwww, did I hurt your wittle fweelings?

Of course you care about the 17 children, Mr. exGOPer. Just not the most vulnerable -- the over 45 million aborted since 1970. But that's okay because it's "progressive" to dehumanize them in Orwellian fashion as you have; anything is fair and just if it forwards the filthy leftist agenda.

But to call this out is, in your words, "political bullshittery practiced in inbred regions of red states which you are part of" (I'm not). And I'm a "Taliban moron" according to you, one of many "low intellect philistines" in your words, "a low intellect Con." But when you're called out for your blatant hypocrisy and abject stupidity, I'm "insecure" or have "self esteem" issues.

Speaking of hypocrisy and stupidity, the "post more memes dumbass" comment came from you, the very same dumbass who posted the meme about 6% of scientists being Republicans (I'm an Independent).

Rule of thumb: always assume a leftist is telling the exact opposite of the truth, especially when projecting their faults.

No Mr. exGOPer, you don't need meds to mitigate your delusions and emotional dysregulation. You need to be put in a rubber room. But until that happens, be a good boy and ride your unicorn back into liberal lunacy land.

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Awwww, did I hurt your wittle fweelings?

Of course you care about the 17 children, Mr. exGOPer. Just not the most vulnerable -- the over 45 million aborted since 1970. But that's okay because it's "progressive" to dehumanize them in Orwellian fashion as you have; anything is fair and just if it forwards the filthy leftist agenda.

That is OKAY because I cannot FORCE individuals to do something that they don't want to do.

Individual liberty is a concept completely alien to you being a braindead inbred Con.

Speaking of hypocrisy and stupidity, the "post more memes dumbass" comment came from you, the very same dumbass who posted the meme about 6% of scientists being Republicans (I'm an Independent).

It was not a meme you moron, it was actual scientific polling data posted in a manner that dumb Cons like you can read

http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/

There you go

Rule of thumb: always assume a leftist is telling the exact opposite of the truth, especially when projecting their faults.

No Mr. exGOPer, you don't need meds to mitigate your delusions and emotional dysregulation. You need to be put in a rubber room. But until that happens, be a good boy and ride your unicorn back into liberal lunacy land.

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Hahhahaha

That's coming from a Trump supporter.

A pathological liar who is ranting and raving like a bitch in heat everyday. I pity cons like you, dumb and proud of it.
 
That is OKAY because I cannot FORCE individuals to do something that they don't want to do.

Individual liberty is a concept completely alien to you being a braindead inbred Con.



It was not a meme you moron, it was actual scientific polling data posted in a manner that dumb Cons like you can read

http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/

There you go



Hahhahaha

That's coming from a Trump supporter.

A pathological liar who is ranting and raving like a bitch in heat everyday. I pity cons like you, dumb and proud of it.

May I suggest that you get one of these and suck on it in a safe space, Mr. exGOPer? I've heard they're very popular with infantile leftists like you.

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