If people with firearms could end attacks so quickly, why are so many cops shot and killed each year

The point being that it is much higher than the U.S. --- nearly everyone I have met from Ireland in my travels has been rabidly anti-abortion.

Rabidly? doubtful, no rabies in Ireland.

Ireland is also a strongly socialist democracy, borderline opposite of many US Republican values where generous support is given to those who don't work and yet most people have a stonking work ethic.

For the most part however people don't have the views of a party, they follow their own feelings, some take the line of the Catholic church...

Ireland is not the US, it has the population of a city so there is not much to compare.

What do you make of this?

An AR-15 is NOT a "military weapon." It's the semi-automatic version of the military M16 and there are even handguns that are far more powerful.
 
Rabidly? doubtful, no rabies in Ireland.

Ireland is also a strongly socialist democracy, borderline opposite of many US Republican values where generous support is given to those who don't work and yet most people have a stonking work ethic.

For the most part however people don't have the views of a party, they follow their own feelings, some take the line of the Catholic church...

Ireland is not the US, it has the population of a city so there is not much to compare.

What do you make of this?

I will put my thoughts on gun control on the other thread later.

From a factual perspective the statement is true. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic weapon. There are handguns in the U.S. that fire bigger and more powerful bullets (thin Dirty Harry).

The AR-15 may look "dangerous" or "military-style" since it is based on the M-16 -- however there are many other semi-automatic rifles in the U.S. that fire just as fast as an AR-15 and have just as big magazines. Are we going to start restricting rifles now in the U.S. because they look "militarized". (This is why the 1993 Assault Weapons ban was such a joke).

The reality is that we need to restrict magazine sizes to 10 or 12 bullets to have any type of policy regarding semi-automatic weapons that would be effective (in the least bit) for stopping mass shootings. The question comes around - what to do with the large number of magazines which are already out there? And how to stop 3D printing of more magazines (very easy to do now).
 
I will put my thoughts on gun control on the other thread later.

From a factual perspective the statement is true. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic weapon. There are handguns in the U.S. that fire bigger and more powerful bullets (thin Dirty Harry).

The AR-15 may look "dangerous" or "military-style" since it is based on the M-16 -- however there are many other semi-automatic rifles in the U.S. that fire just as fast as an AR-15 and have just as big magazines. Are we going to start restricting rifles now in the U.S. because they look "militarized". (This is why the 1993 Assault Weapons ban was such a joke).

The reality is that we need to restrict magazine sizes to 10 or 12 bullets to have any type of policy regarding semi-automatic weapons that would be effective (in the least bit) for stopping mass shootings. The question comes around - what to do with the large number of magazines which are already out there? And how to stop 3D printing of more magazines (very easy to do now).

Yeah.. but your eyes went up to heaven a bit when you read poindexter's comments?

P.S. A tyical colt .45 Magnum vs a 5.56 mm NATO round from a rifle? Both are devastating however.. from a ballistics perspective, huge differences. And this is part of the problem, an uninformed over-opinionated culture involving guys without military experience. The "I'm proud to be stupid" culture is too strong now in the US.

School shooters have a copy-cat mentality. Gasoline can kill more than any gun but they want the bang-bang with the sexy gun their shooter mentor used.
 
And there we go again, the height of intellectual pedigree exhibited by a Con, reduced to posting memes and cartoons while bragging about 'winning' a debate. Why don't you call TomB, he can post his five word posts while copypasting tripe from AmericanThinker and you guys can jerk each other off at how smart you two are.
Don't get upset Mr. exGOPer; everything will be fine! Just ride your unicorn back into liberal la la land where only you and fellow leftists are smart... where inanimate objects are evil but more than 40 million abortions are not. And where "common sense gun control" will stop killings, even though laws against murder out here don't. And please remember to take your meds!

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Yeah.. but your eyes went up to heaven a bit when you read poindexter's comments?

P.S. A tyical colt .45 Magnum vs a 5.56 mm NATO round from a rifle? Both are devastating however.. from a ballistics perspective, huge differences. And this is part of the problem, an uninformed over-opinionated culture involving guys without military experience. The "I'm proud to be stupid" culture is too strong now in the US.

School shooters have a copy-cat mentality. Gasoline can kill more than any gun but they want the bang-bang with the sexy gun their shooter mentor used.

You do realize that all the largest mass killings in K-12 schools in the U.S. were bombings -- not shootings. Performed either by other students or staff.

Let's take a look at the one with the largest death toll of 38 dead -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
 
You do realize that all the largest mass killings in K-12 schools in the U.S. were bombings -- not shootings. Performed either by other students or staff.

Let's take a look at the one with the largest death toll of 38 dead -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Was my point not obvious enough?

School shootings need to be stopped immediately. You are not a trader as best I can tell so I guess have little understanding of copy-cat & self-fulfilling prophecy behavior in people. Allowing the gun industry's NRA to piss about is going to get a lot more kids killed.

The typical AR and variant must be taken away from 19 year olds as part of the solution, any argument against that is lunacy. They buy them, they sniff them and lick them and they shoot them.

To solve the problem, screening for psychopathy is probably required. That will cause some hearts to flutter on both sides of the debate.

I'm hungry, need a burger. Funny thing is I live in the ex-murder capital of the world and feel perfectly safe here. But a high-school educated broke ass American will be sure to tell me all about it from 20 seconds of googling.

I may talk to Barron about sponsoring a new politics section, that excludes non-traders as these chats are worthless. You guys are morons.
 
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