If people with firearms could end attacks so quickly, why are so many cops shot and killed each year

[exGOPer]

Oh please. Voluntarily aborted babies are just as dead as those killed by psychopaths shooting pregnant women in the gut.

Exactly, there is no difference between the two which is why only one is illegal. Makes a lot of sense, 'scientist'. If they are the same because the end results are the same then why is only one a crime and not the other?

The only reason it's not a crime is because hypocrite leftists like you euphemize it as a "woman's right to choose." As if that makes it enlightened and civilized.

Exactly, it's not a woman's right to choose about what happens to their bodies and their lives - government should decide! Me as someone who will never endure the pregnancy or pay for the upkeep of the child MUST force women to give births against their will because they could grow up to be cannon fodder to Trump supporters like you. Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia and Iraq, your abortion views match them perfectly.

 

[Poindexter]

Exactly, it's not a woman's right to choose about what happens to their bodies and their lives- government should decide!

Except it's not only their bodies and their lives, deranged hack from the "party of science." What woman has two sets of DNA? If it was only their bodies, fetal homicide laws wouldn't exist. Interesting how the only pro-abortion advocates are people who have already been born.

 

[exGOPer]

Except it's not only their bodies and their lives, deranged hack from the "party of science." What woman has two sets of DNA? If it was only their bodies, fetal homicide laws wouldn't exist. Interesting how the only pro-abortion advocates are people who have already been born.

A woman's body is not her own? Who gets to decide then? The government or the individual? Who will take responsibility for the child after it's birth, the individual or the government? The government will pay both for the woman and the child during their lifetimes right? No? Why not? If the government is forcing someone to make a choice then why aren't they responsible for its cost?

A 16 year old who has no ability or means to raise a child, what should be done with her? Put them both on state welfare? If yes, then why haven't the red states already done that? At least in Muslim countries they do that, why not in white Taliban?

Do you support exceptions for rape and incest. If yes, then why? After all, it's not the babies fault right? What woman has two sets of DNA? It's not just their bodies as you said. So you agree that a 13 year old raped by her father or a stranger should be forced to carry a child to term? Give me a yes or no answer for once.

You keep blabbering about fetal homicide laws, I asked you a simple question, the 38 states that have fetal homicide rates - why aren't they applied to woman having voluntary abortions? It's a simple question, why won't you quote that part of my reply and answer it directly?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Come on @Poindexter you can do it!

exGOPer is a trader though, so is for all practical purposes a higher being to little chess pigeons like yourself.

How long to he cries unfair! you triggered! me won! flap away till another day..

 

[Poindexter]

A woman's body is not her own? Who gets to decide then? The government or the individual? Who will take responsibility for the child after it's birth, the individual or the government? The government will pay both for the woman and the child during their lifetimes right? No? Why not? If the government is forcing someone to make a choice then why aren't they responsible for its cost?

A 16 year old who has no ability or means to raise a child, what should be done with her? Put them both on state welfare? If yes, then why haven't the red states already done that? At least in Muslim countries they do that, why not in white Taliban?

Do you support exceptions for rape and incest. If yes, then why? After all, it's not the babies fault right? What woman has two sets of DNA? It's not just their bodies as you said. So you agree that a 13 year old raped by her father or a stranger should be forced to carry a child to term? Give me a yes or no answer for once.

You keep blabbering about fetal homicide laws, I asked you a simple question, the 38 states that have fetal homicide rates - why aren't they applied to woman having voluntary abortions? It's a simple question, why won't you quote that part of my reply and answer it directly?

I see that you have reading comprehension problems on top of being a triggered, foaming-at-the-mouth leftist. Which is very entertaining BTW. Anyway... I never said "a woman's body is not her own." I said it's not ONLY her body. Because if it was only her body, fetal homicide laws wouldn't exist and I already told you why they're not applied to voluntary abortions.

You're obfuscating and it's lame. What I personally support is none of your business and irrelevant to the reason I brought it up because my point is valid regardless of my personal views. Which was, if you really cared about "the children" you wouldn't pretend it's OK to abort 100 X the number PER DAY than were killed in one school shooting. What you and your ilk really and transparently care about is your anti-Second Amendment agenda. Which will go nowhere, so enjoy the triggering!

Your strawman about incest and rape is nonsense because those are the exception, not the rule. Abortion is widely used as a form of birth control and that's disgusting -- no matter how much filthy leftists like you try to whitewash it.

So AGAIN -- back to my point and not your smoke screen -- don't pretend that we have to act now on "guncontrol" because you care about "the children" while simultaneously condoning 100 X the number of abortions PER DAY than were killed in the recent school shooting.

 

[exGOPer]

I see that you have reading comprehension problems on top of being a triggered, foaming-at-the-mouth leftist. Which is very entertaining

Again with the self congratulation, how insecure are you?

BTW. Anyway... I never said "a woman's body is not her own." I said it's not ONLY her body.

Oh it's not? Who says? If it's not her body then how come she is able to decide what to do with it? Why won't the foetus survive outside of the woman's body if a host ins't a requirement?

Because if it was only her body, fetal homicide laws wouldn't exist and I already told you why they're not applied to voluntary abortions.

If fetal homicides apply solely for that reason then why aren't these woman charged for homicide for having an abortion?

You're obfuscating and it's lame. What I personally support is none of your business and irrelevant to the reason I brought it up because my point is valid regardless of my personal views. Which was, if you really cared about "the children" you wouldn't pretend it's OK to abort 100 X the number PER DAY than were killed in one school shooting. What you and your ilk really and transparently care about is your anti-Second Amendment agenda. Which will go nowhere, so enjoy the triggering!

Who says I am ok with abortion? I never had one I am ever going to force someone to have an abortion. It's simply a question of individual liberty which you are completely ignorant of. And if you care for these foetuses, then why are you for reducing welfare and child support as a conservative?

Your strawman about incest and rape is nonsense because those are the exception, not the rule. Abortion is widely used as a form of birth control and that's disgusting -- no matter how much filthy leftists like you try to whitewash it.

WHY should they be the exception? What is the child's fault there? Who cares what you find disgusting, laws are based on good jurisprudence, not your personal threshold of disgust.

So AGAIN -- back to my point and not your smoke screen -- don't pretend that we have to act now on "guncontrol" because you care about "the children" while simultaneously condoning 100 X the number of abortions PER DAY than were killed in the recent school shooting.

A Trump supporter shot and killed 17 children in the prime of their lives, you are defending that by advocating that 13 year olds raped by their father should be forced by the GOVERNMENT to carry a child to term and after it's born, nothing should be done by the very government for this mother and child because after that personal responsibility is the motto.

And it's me who is disgusting?

 

[Slartibartfast]

I see that you have reading comprehension problems on top of being a triggered, foaming-at-the-mouth leftist. Which is very entertaining BTW. Anyway... I never said "a woman's body is not her own." I said it's not ONLY her body. Because if it was only her body, fetal homicide laws wouldn't exist and I already told you why they're not applied to voluntary abortions.

You're obfuscating and it's lame. What I personally support is none of your business and irrelevant to the reason I brought it up because my point is valid regardless of my personal views. Which was, if you really cared about "the children" you wouldn't pretend it's OK to abort 100 X the number PER DAY than were killed in one school shooting. What you and your ilk really and transparently care about is your anti-Second Amendment agenda. Which will go nowhere, so enjoy the triggering!

Your strawman about incest and rape is nonsense because those are the exception, not the rule. Abortion is widely used as a form of birth control and that's disgusting -- no matter how much filthy leftists like you try to whitewash it.

So AGAIN -- back to my point and not your smoke screen -- don't pretend that we have to act now on "guncontrol" because you care about "the children" while simultaneously condoning 100 X the number of abortions PER DAY than were killed in the recent school shooting.

Butwhatabout (he went there).. access to modern birth control which has prevented more abortions than anything really. Especially counting the rate of abortions by married women is half? more than half of all?

What does Comrade Poindexter have to say?

Why not just make some money trading? Look, it is easy... except it requires being smart and having hair on your balls. You are brave are you not? You are smart? .. haha

If you tried it you would be more appreciative of the people you are taking to and maybe learn something.



Bit of a boost from oil today. (about to make a LOT more)

 

[exGOPer]

Butwhatabout (he went there).. access to modern birth control which has prevented more abortions than anything really. Especially counting the rate of abortions by married women is half? more than half of all?

What does Comrade Poindexter have to say?

Why not just make some money trading? Look, it is easy... except it requires being smart and having hair on your balls. You are brave are you not? You are smart? .. haha

If you tried it you would be more appreciative of the people you are taking to and maybe learn something.

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Bit of a boost from oil today. (about to make a LOT more)

He is upset that we have the same position on the issue that Trump had before he decided to fleece these rubes

 

[gwb-trading]

Butwhatabout (he went there).. access to modern birth control which has prevented more abortions than anything really. Especially counting the rate of abortions by married women is half? more than half of all?

What does Comrade Poindexter have to say?

Why not just make some money trading? Look, it is easy... except it requires being smart and having hair on your balls. You are brave are you not? You are smart? .. haha

If you tried it you would be more appreciative of the people you are taking to and maybe learn something.

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Bit of a boost from oil today. (about to make a LOT more)

So you claim to live in South America, eh? Most of the countries in Latin and South America have very restrictive abortion laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_rights_in_Latin_America

 

[NeoTrader]

Ever heard of Ayn Rand?

An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn). Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing ...

You and the other leftists should read the rest of her work, not just this tiny part of it. You might actually learn something about freedom(which I know is like the "forbidden" word for these types and the reason I hold no high expetations for these people).
But since we're in this topic and a leftist came up with Ayn Rand as an example, she would never support gun control in any way shape of form. Curious...