If I were the devil...

[murray t turtle]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

If i were the devil...

I would gain control of the most powerful nation in the world;

I would delude their minds into thinking that they had come from man's effort, instead of God's blessings;

I would promote an attitude of loving things and using people, instead of the other way around;

I would dupe entire states into relying on gambling for their state revenue;

I would convince people that character is not an issue when it comes to leadership;

I would make it legal to take the life of unborn babies;

I would make it socially acceptable to take one's own life, and invent machines to make it convenient;

I would cheapen human life as much as possible so that the life of animals are valued more than human beings;

I would take God out of the schools, where even the mention of His name was grounds for a lawsuit;

I would come up with drugs that sedate the mind and target the young, and I would get sports heroes to advertise them;

I would get control of the media, so that every night I could pollute the mind of every family member for my agenda;

I would attack the family, the backbone of any nation.

I would make divorce acceptable and easy, even fashionable. If the family crumbles, so does the nation;

I would compel people to express their most depraved fantasies on canvas and movie screens, and I would call it art;

I would convince the world that people are born homosexuals, and that their lifestyles should be accepted and marveled;

I would convince the people that right and wrong are determined by a few who call themselves authorities and refer to their agenda as politically correct;

I would persuade people that the church is irrelevant and out of date, and the Bible is for the naive;

I would dull the minds of Christians, and make them believe that prayer is not important, and that faithfulness and obedience are optional;

I would convince the young that marriage is old fashioned; that swinging is more fun; that what you see on TV is the way to be. And thus, I could undress you in public, and I could lure you into bed with deseases for which there is no cure.

I would caution against extremes; In hard work: in patriotism; in moral conduct.

I would make the symbol of Easter an egg, and the symbol of Christmas a bottle.

I would take from those who have and give to those who want it until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious.



So if I was the devil...I guess I would just leave things the way they are.

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Thoughtful words;
as usual.

Planty of TV,satelite, cable, video.......] print, internet media the devil does not control;
thank Lord for that.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from stu:

Your efforts to convince that reasoning doesn't work, has never been borne out in reality .

I don't mean that reasoning doesn't work. I only mean that, for many people, it is not enough. It simply does not meet everyone's needs entirely.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from vhehn:

isnt that the very definition of superstition?

Dictionary: su·per·sti·tion (sû'pər-stĭsh'ən)

Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionaryn.
1.An irrational belief that an object, action, or circumstance not logically related to a course of events influences its outcome.
2.
a.A belief, practice, or rite irrationally maintained by ignorance of the laws of nature or by faith in magic or chance.

Perhaps. Again, the metaphorical apple talking to an inhabitant of Flatland must seem pretty irrational.

 

[Heartstrings]

Quote from stu:

For every verse of Bible you thump there is another to make it untrue or contradict it. You only notice what you think sound like nice bits do you?

Shifting the blame onto everyone else - because god as described in the Bible is a schizophrenic lying cheating killer, suffering with a love hate psychosis - is cheap.

Seeing as you mentioned justice, real justice for oneself, in my view, would be found in overcoming thoughts , should one ever be gripped by them, which condone religious depravity manifested in the god concept, by refusing to succumb to their absurd, contradictory, immoral standards and demands.

Can't say as I can blame anyone...I've been pretty immoral myself.
Can you show me, these contradictions and God's immoral traits from the Bible?

 

[trendlover]

Quote from Heartstrings:

Can't say as I can blame anyone...I've been pretty immoral myself.
Can you show me, these contradictions and God's immoral traits from the Bible?

Why would a god be angry so much to create a flood? That god put Noah and his family and animals on the ark, and then kill all life? The whole world? That god created those people, then he kill them by drowning in a flood? And they do not die fast, but have torture knowing the water is higher and higher with 40 day and night of rain. That is evil, sick, crazy.

And god had to prove to satan that Job will worship god still if Job is not rich. So that god let satan kill all of Jobs children, kill Jobs animals, and make Job sick. Job was a good personbefore, no reason to hurt him, but god let satan do those horrible things to Job to prove Job will still love god? That god is sick, evil, dictator, and narcissist

 

[trendlover]

Quote from Misthos:

Why did god make sex so overwhelmingly enjoyable over any other human activity.... and then add a bunch of restrictions such as how to have sex, number of partners, can't pay for it, etc...

Yes. So stupid. The law by man for punishment for rape is good. And if there is a god, why create sex that people can not resist, is harmless, people love and enjoy that , then say you have to marry for that? What if someone want to finish school and not be married? They have to wait until 23 years old? Stupid.

 

[peilthetraveler]

Quote from trendlover:

Yes. So stupid. The law by man for punishment for rape is good. And if there is a god, why create sex that people can not resist, is harmless, people love and enjoy that , then say you have to marry for that? What if someone want to finish school and not be married? They have to wait until 23 years old? Stupid.

People that have alot of sex before they get married have trouble staying faithful. Would you want to be married to a woman that has slept with 100 guys? That pretty f-ing sick if you ask me.

But i dont know...maybe you dont mind being married to a woman that really is no different than a prostitute with the amount of men she has slept with (maybe she didnt take money for sex, but im sure a few guys bought sex from her by buying her dinner and taking her to the movies)

 

[trendlover]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

People that have alot of sex before they get married have trouble staying faithful. Would you want to be married to a woman that has slept with 100 guys? That pretty f-ing sick if you ask me.

But i dont know...maybe you dont mind being married to a woman that really is no different than a prostitute with the amount of men she has slept with (maybe she didnt take money for sex, but im sure a few guys bought sex from her by buying her dinner and taking her to the movies)

Hmm, why do you say (woman) who is with 100 guys, but nothing about the man who is with 100 girls? And you think a girl only have sex for dinner or the movie? Not because she likes that?

 

[MarketMasher]

You are all reaching too high to start with - trying to determine if there is a supreme spiritual being.
First try to determine if there is a spiritual...anything.
For that, look to those who recount near-death experiences. Look for verification that during the "out-of-body" portion, they later related facts that they could not have witnessed while in they were "dead" (like knowing where the intern dropped his pen while he was wheeling the "lifeless" body, covered head to toe in a sheet, down to the hospital morgue).
If you can determine whether there is a spiritual anything - then you have one toe in an ocean that's unexplored.
But why discuss the possibility of a supreme spiritual being when you can't detemine if there is a spiritual anything?

 

[maxpi]

I'm not given to long winded arguments with people that desire to be willfully ignorant... I never go there... I do go where I can learn things for myself because I'm not a lazy puddle of pee with no desire to know anything but my already existing opinions... so I wind up in these prayer meetings where the leader gets the Devil to talk out of people, then we tell him to leave because we come in the authority of Jesus of Nazareth.. and the people get healed of stuff.. so I go to a lot of these meetings to see 1) what can I get over 2) what can I learn... I'm like that, I need healing for old wounds from childhood all the way up to yesterday and I need to know things...

I learned that the Devil gets to every person with lies, starting before we are born sometimes... that is the Micro level of control.. on the Macro level the Devil has been putting together an organization that runs the world in many regards... it's goal is to put the Anti Christ in the temple at Jerusalem, even though that temple doesn't exist currently, and to head the One World Government... strange that... the Devil can do all this because when we believe his lies we are in a deal with him and God is a perfect gentleman about those deals.. but he paid the price so we can break any and all of them just by uncovering them and putting them on the cross.... and Jesus LOVES to show what He can do, so when we put those lies on the cross and we ask Jesus to intervene in the affairs of the world he is freed up to do so moreso in our lives... there isn't anything that He doesn't want to fix or anybody He doesn't want to help and save but we have to ask... and we have to ask correctly to some extent... that's what the Lord's Prayer is about, not to mention the entire New Testament and much of the Old Testament..