I think someone found the holy grail

[Bad_Badness]

You need at least 2 years on C2 and thousands of trades. Also remember C2 matching engine is not build for medium speed trading. Fills are "sync'ed" with the broker anywhere from under a second to 2 minutes. Clearly not a day traders solution.

If you are using only the C2 engine and not a broker, you get magic autofills a lot. With options I imagine that is a HUGE advantage for the tail end of the trade.

As for CS subscriber money, it is pretty small potatoes, imo. You need a lot of subscribers. Then how are the fills going to work out with limited liquidity?

 

[Pekelo]

The main question if he can continue this way. I highly doubt it. If he had a real edge that can make this big return he wouldn't need the C2 subscribers momey

1. There are no similar systems with such returns and at least 1 year track record, so the data is against him. there will be 30-50% DD.
2. I always like to think there is a guy in Vietnam without broker access who can trade and this is the best way to make cash out of his talent.

 

[Tony Stark]

Are you subscribed?

No Sir.Just been following it waiting for the blow up that most C2 systems like this have.l am surprised every time I check it the returns just keep going up.

 

[ab_trader]

Very first system is not a first such system from that guy. He was selling same stuff (which fails occasionally) under different names since 2018.
https://forums.collective2.com/t/ark1-information/15561

 

[Overnight]

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I'm more upset at all the innocent sheep out there, rather than the wolves making the killings.
If I were to ever go on C2...I would literally sell my system trade process for a million bucks. If they can pull it off, they'll more than make up that fee in less than a year.

Is there a money-back guarantee?

No, of course not. Pipe down.

 

[MacBookProHo]

Is there a money-back guarantee?

No, of course not. Pipe down.

'Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Results will vary'

Just say those magical words...while selling trading courses (or any courses) in an attempt to get rich.
I would love to see how great of a salesman I can be, and/or how truly innocent and gullible and naive the masses are.

Social media....and humanity,
You can literally go to any library....pick ten random books....and reproduce that content in a cool, charming, bright way....in video clips....and sell it for huge money to the dumb masses.

If you are a losing trader...instead of spending time on this site, and losing money trading the market.....produce social media clips, content, and courses....you'll actually make money doing that, and maybe get rich too.

 

[Overnight]

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Just say those magical words...while selling trading courses (or any courses) in an attempt to get rich.
I would love to see how great of a salesman I can be, and/or how truly innocent and gullible and naive the masses are.

Then just do it. You claim you can make a million on C2 selling your baffling BS...Just do it, Nike man!

Social media....and humanity,
You can literally go to any library....pick ten random books....and reproduce that content in a cool, charming, bright way....in video clips....and sell it for huge money to the dumb masses.

Then do it, instead of staying here!

If you are a losing trader...instead of spending time on this site, and losing money trading the market.....produce social media clips, content, and courses....you'll actually make money doing that, and maybe get rich too.

Oh, right. So you are a losing trader, because you are spending time on this site. Like all of us are.

Have any blotters, or are you just another JackMorgan, whose bullshit I just recently shut the fuck down about blotters. You want to be next, MacBookProHo? Or are you going to pipe down?

 

[MacBookProHo]

Or are you going to pipe down?

'Pipe down'....that phrase gave me instant flashbacks to the movie Under Siege, 1992. That was when I last heard that line.

Great movie, by the way. Very good compared to the watery, modern, crap of today.
Tommy Lee Jones and Steven Seagal played great adversaries. But the bad guy is always the coolest in a movie.

Think like both the bad guy and good guy in movies...during trading. It will keep your mind alert, awake and rational and sharp.

The Fugitive, 1993....also with Tommy Lee Jones. and Harrison Ford...they don't make movies like that anymore.

 

[schizo]

If you really had a "holy grail" why the hell would you want to tell the whole world about it, let alone publish it on C2 for a measly amount? No, my friend, if you had a cash cow, you'll want to rather lock it away and keep your mouth shut.

 

[SoyUnGanador]

Wow, what an awesome thread. I've seen you guys mention that collective2 before. I have sooooo many questions, and that site seems kind of hard to navigate. Tons of questions for anyone with knowledge:

1. Has anyone actually done this? With which one? Results?

2. Is there not a way to sort the systems by how long they've been around? I don't want to see the hundreds that were set up in the last few months, I want to see the ones that have been around for years and that will have the most established track record.

3. How exactly does it work. Let's say I have an IB account. Do I have to give the system guy my login info and password and what not? Or just collective2? Does the system guy or someone else actually log into my account and make trades? Or collective2 just sends some electronic signal to IB and IB knows to make the trade in my account?

4. What if I have an account that is half invested in stocks and I don't want to sell those, can I instruct the system to just use the other half?

5. The one mentioned in the original post seems outstanding. As do all or most of those that wmwmw posted that he said blew out? They are up generally like 70%+ ANNUALLY and their max drawdowns like 25%ish? That seems outstanding to me. What am I missing here?

6. Is not the thing to do, assuming one had enough money, to sign up for like 10 different ones for 10 different accounts, all outstanding tested systems, and divvy up all or some of your portfolio in those different accounts? That way, if 1 or 2 blow out, you are probably still doing great, if (other than the ones that blow out) they continue to meet or even be close to past performance. A 75% annual return, even with a 100% blow out every 5-10 years, is still magic if you scale in and pull money out so the wipe-out does not kill you.

7. I wonder if another technique would be to watch them and wait for a blow out. If its been around years, and suffers its first blow-out, that might be a black swan and better performance should resume soon, time to go with it? Although maybe not.

Thanks!