I gotta tell you - these markets are too insane for me

Quote from mfbreakout:

Oil goes from $75 to $103 , making new highs. So it's not supposed to pull back and consolidate some up moves? I am sorry but to use word "Fu---ing" in every other sentence to describe market action says it all.

Like Maverick74 says, markets are not supposed to go straight up or straight down. There are plenty of dividend paying stocks with steady earnings/cash flow which will give 10-12% a year total return if one wants to avoid whipsaw moves in OIH, E-mini, etc..

well I guess its not a crazy market after all, what was i thinking?! Markets go up and down! Sounds like you have this current market all figured out... bet you are making a ton with that clarity and comprehension of direction, pull backs and consolidations. Congrats
 
Quote from iceman1:

wow, i guess my view should be that these crazy moves are opportunities. My inclination is to reduce risk, by spreading and hedging. Every fricking time I do that it seems that I reduce the impact of a move (meaning profits get cut short).

Today I scale in to OIH Dec 135p thinking I may have to wait a few weeks to cash in; so I spread against 124p. AFTER ALL oil is making new interim highs. So who the f-ck would figure we get a sell off. OF course I am glad we did.

But in all seriousness, are any others and in particular the gunslingers out there, getting hammered by these wild swings at EOD with little no reason. It's like a fricking shell game out there. You gotta figure out what a fricking computer is going to do at any given moment.

I keep telling myself... "wait until the f-king end of the day" before making a move.

No wonder guys don't want to be swing and position trader like I am doing. Used to be you could hold a position overnight. Nowadays, since I decided to do some trading in June, it's like an insane asylum out there. I haven't even looked at the markets in 5 1/2 years, after many years of trading back into the 80s; and since June what I have seen is often inexplicable.

However, like I said, this does create opportunities... but it also places anyone with open positions overnight or even intra-day in jeopardy, and harms way.

When did it become this insane?? Who likes these markets?
ice ,in the 80's the spu's had a 3 point rang,trading at 230,now at 1230,3 x5 is 15 pt rng,its more like 25 or 30,but that's not so different,smaller psoitions ,bigger swings in the market,means you can wait for a better entry and sit on your hands,when you do profit ,it's larger,just take your time getting back in,it's normal volatility for the last 3-5 yrs,just 5 times faster than the 80's,means you get paid sooner
 
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