I am looking for a book that will teach me how to identify a trend within a time frame

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I've been studying this for a while now and I'm having a hard time finding the trend in the time frame I'm looking at.
For example if I like to trade a few times a week I'm going to be looking at maybe the one hour for hour time frame. I'm going to find my trend in the 4 hour and find my patterns and such in the 1 hour.

My problem is how far do I look back for data on the 4-hour to find the direction I should be trading... There are so many trends within trends and if I go too far back I might actually be looking at the daily trend and if I don't go far enough I might be looking at a small time frame trend I need to know which swings to focus on and find the pullback.
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I don’t think the problem is about Trend lines.
It’s a really basic concept that a child can grasp.

The problem is about uncertainty.
And you won’t master it by reading books.

Don’t ask for more than what it can deliver.
A trend line will break most of the time.

If you’re looking for a holy line,
You won’t find it.

What are you asking from a trend line ?
What’s the purpose of a trend line ?
Is it what you’re looking for ?

Practice uncertainty.

There’s nothing more than ...
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A swing high and a swing low.

You can also duplicate (Channel) them.
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But again ...
What’s the problem ? Requirements ?
Does a Trend line meet them ?
Are the trade off okay ?
 
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Well this is why they say 95% of the people fail. Out of all these answers only one person give something worth reading.
Just for you guys that always give information that's useless. Use that time to read, use that time to figure out what you're doing wrong or what you need to work on. Then when you figure it out ask questions and you might get 10 answers that are useless but someone will give you an answer that will help and I'm sure it's the one person that is actually making money. So instead of wasting your time and mine use that time wisely.
That's why this information is out here,it's so you can work on what you need to work on which is what I'm going to do. There is nothing anyone can tell me that's going to make me stop searching, learning and studying. So please don't even waste your time
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So again my question is is there any books out there or any reading information or even videos that you guys recommend because I'm having a problem identifying the trend within certain time frames. Like I said if I'm looking at the one hour how much data do I look at to know if I should be going in the up direction or down direction.
And again don't waste your time telling me not to read books are no good or whatever ignorant mentality you got going on. And if you're also having this problem , Don't say aren't we all is this a joke, take that time to do what I'm doing and figure out the answer to your problem. Look for help and ask questions
And for the ones who are actually giving me good information thank you

I honestly don’t have a specific book to recommend to you on trend. Like many have said in your post there are a lot of ways to do it and a lot of it is subjective.

My only advice is that as you learn about different ways to identify trend, if you find one that makes sense to you use that and stick with it. It’s really consistency of your strategy that will help you. No trend following method is really any better than another. It’s the consistent use of the method you choose that matters.

Good luck.
 
I've been studying this for a while now and I'm having a hard time finding the trend in the time frame I'm looking at.
For example if I like to trade a few times a week I'm going to be looking at maybe the one hour for hour time frame. I'm going to find my trend in the 4 hour and find my patterns and such in the 1 hour.

My problem is how far do I look back for data on the 4-hour to find the direction I should be trading... There are so many trends within trends and if I go too far back I might actually be looking at the daily trend and if I don't go far enough I might be looking at a small time frame trend I need to know which swings to focus on and find the pullback.

I think you hid a loaded question within your message post.

You already know what is a trend and you can very easily find them. The problem is that you're trying to base your trade signal strategy on trendlines and you have not been able to perform well with that.

Simply, your question is really about your patterns and how to use them with your trendlines.

The only way someone can help you with that is for you to start another thread, trade journal or just a journal where you've outlined whatever you refer to as "my patterns" and whatever you perceive to be a trendlines.

Seriously, your patterns could easily be throwing darts at a dart board because you've posted no information about those "my patterns" nor have you shown exactly how they're merged with your trendline analysis.

Post lots of annotated charts exactly as you see them on your monitor along with disclosing your trade performance so far with "your patterns" and "trendlines".

That's one of the key issues about asking for help online. You need to open yourself to scrutiny about your trade method and trade performance to make any real progress. Most traders will not do that...they will hide critical elements about their trading and they hope others will wave a magical wand to fix things for them via making some kind of recommendation for them.

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Like you said . Trends are all over the place. The problem you might be having is assigning proper risk reward to a trend. If the trend you trade is on a small timeframe, your r/r must be different than if you trade from a large timeframe
 
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