Hydroxycloroquine is Back
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This is Fauci:
"Anthony Stephen Fauci is an American physician and immunologist who has served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) since 1984. Since January 2020, he has been one of the lead members of the Trump administration's White House Coronavirus Task Force addressing the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States. Fauci is one of the world's leading experts on infectious diseases, and during the early stages of the pandemic The New Yorker and The New York Times described Fauci as one of the most trusted medical figures in the United States."
What's your education (if you have any)?
You are probably a Trump fan. As the saying goes, it takes one to know one.
PS: learning flipping burgers is not an education.
He doesn't have to. just by not embracing it can have negative effects>>>people won't know about it.
Simple example is him not mentioning vit D. The science is there, the solution is cheap (sunshine) yet did he ever mention it?
By the way your scepticism is adorable but when there is no alternative, you might as well try it. That is the best part, side effects are minimal or none.
I didn't give your post above a "like" because I didn't want it to be interpreted necessarily as an endorsement of zinc quercetin etc. Yet I like what you say. Interestingly, Pauling was well known for saying American Medicine was way too conservative. I personally heard him say it! And he was right far more than he was wrong. We have to temper that however with Pauling being a supremely confident individual who would stick with something even after it was clear to everyone else that it was wrong! In other words, he was far from perfect. Brilliant, yes. But not perfect.
Pauling also made a big point of our misunderstanding of MDR values for the essential vitamins. He liked to point out that these were the minimums to prevent disease, but in some cases far from optimum. He was the first to call attention to our woeful lack of sufficient folic acid in our U.S. diets and said everyone should take a folic acid supplement. Quite a few years later it was discovered that insufficient folic acid was the cause of scoliosis in infants. (folic acid is also essential for methylation in the intestinal tract.) Now all Obstetricians prescribe folic acid supplements to pregnant women. Pauling also said that many people have far from optimum Vitamin D. This,for obvious reasons, is more common in older people. So I like what you say. It is just that I would like to see sound clinical studies to back it up -- not that you should be responsible for that.. Are there perhaps some for zinc quercetin that you know about? By the way I take small dose zinc, folic acid, C and D supplements on a regular basis. Now you've got me wanting to look up the literature on Quercetin/zinc.
Trump is lying when he says he is taking hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic measure. In someone morbidly obese as he is it would be dangerous to take it long term. It is not a harmless drug. No responsible physician would prescribe it for prophylactic use in that way, especially for someone in Trump's condition and age..
Yet, he would take it if he had been Covid-19 positive but decided to lie about his Covid-19 status when he said he was negative after a few staffers tested positive.
If that was the case, I'm sure those personal doctors he has would help him cover up that lie just like when they said he's in great physical shape...no problems.
You won't see him jogging around the White House nor working out in the fitness room in the White House. Yep, many do not know there's a fitness room in the White House.
http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/floor3/sitting-room-301.htm
Personally, I would expand that room into a full fitness room with the luxury stuff like a sauna, hot tub, rowing machines, boxing bags and ice bath.
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My skepticism may be "adorable" but clicking through the few links you've provided, I don't see any that have concluded (ongoing) and garnered positive results. Like I said, I'll wait for the science to come in and remain cautiously optimistic. But you're right, can't hurt to take something as harmless as a few supps. That are hypothesized to help.
Trial link in post #97.
The advantage about Quercetin that it works against Covid in 2 ways. One is its ionophore effect. The other is that it has been proven itself alone a Zika virus killer, I forgot the medical way how it acts.
For reading up on Q.:
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/87373
From the comment section:
David Moskowitz MD
July 2, 2020
We published a dramatic case report in early May (http://www.scivisionpub.com/pdfs/quercetin-for-covid19-1196.pdf). 1 g twice a day cured my patient of severe chest pain and dyspnea within 24 hrs. I now use it preventively for all my patients, and take it myself (500 mg/day, not low dose). In 400 patient-months, I haven't seen a new case of COVID19, so I think it prevents as well as treats.
The literature suggests that the MRGPRX2 receptor on mast cells activates Fc-epsilon-RI in the absence of IgE, but I'm told the mechanism may be different. Clinically, though, I couldn't ask for more. Quercetin seems to remove symptoms promptly. I would urge clinicians to try it rather than dismissing it as hype. After all, it's not as if they have anything as cheap and safe to try.
@Pekelo - If you become Covid-19 positive...which therapeutics will you ask your doctor to give you as a prescription even if he wants to prescribe something else or will you self treat yourself with one of these therapeutics you're defending / supporting...which one ?
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