How To Spot A Con Man

They drive fancy cars and/or wear expensive clothes to give you the illusion they are doing well.
They mention things they've recently purchased for their spouses and girlfriends to make you feel like you would be able to do the same for the people you care about if you just jumped on the proposed deal.
They act like they've already got their own money tied up in bigger deals which is why they are looking for your investment "in the small stuff".

Fancy expensive shoes are a def tell or anything flashy like giant pinky rings-- just saw two of these signals combined.

I was just talking to a guy ( with the giant pinky ring and alligator shoes that had a pointy gold tip) asking for $50 mil for a real estate project, next it was $10 then finally $1 just to keep the deal alive.

This all happened in 15 minutes, then i find out the guy isnt a principal or even working for a principal but was just a broker--- buyer beware!!
 
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http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/november/fraud-science-papers-111615.html

Even the best poker players have "tells" that give away when they're bluffing with a weak hand. Scientists who commit fraud have similar, but even more subtle, tells, and a pair of Stanford researchers have cracked the writing patterns of scientists who attempt to pass along falsified data.

The work, published in the Journal of Language and Social Psychology, could eventually help scientists identify falsified research before it is published.

There is a fair amount of research dedicated to understanding the ways liars lie. Studies have shown that liars generally tend to express more negative emotion terms and use fewer first-person pronouns. Fraudulent financial reports typically display higher levels of linguistic obfuscation – phrasing that is meant to distract from or conceal the fake data – than accurate reports.

"We believe the underlying idea behind obfuscation is to muddle the truth," said Markowitz, the lead author on the paper. "Scientists faking data know that they are committing a misconduct and do not want to get caught. Therefore, one strategy to evade this may be to obscure parts of the paper. We suggest that language can be one of many variables to differentiate between fraudulent and genuine science."

The results showed that fraudulent retracted papers scored significantly higher on the obfuscation index than papers retracted for other reasons. For example, fraudulent papers contained approximately 1.5 percent more jargon than unretracted papers.

"Fradulent papers had about 60 more jargon-like words per paper compared to unretracted papers," Markowitz said. "This is a non-trivial amount."

Some critics of a major price-action-theory educator believe their teachings are muddled with vagueness, obscurantism and jargon, although not necessarily in any similar manner to the subjects in this linked article.
 
There are grades of conmen. An out and out conman is a criminal. There are some very smart conmen out there who operate in the grey and borderline legal areas. An example might be a sofa company who buys materials and part manafactures in china then ships the parts to Italy where the product is then assembled and sold as Italian hand made. Actually when you start analysing where people spend money you will find all sorts of scams, some completely illegal but many more in the grey areas.
 
http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/november/fraud-science-papers-111615.html

Even the best poker players have "tells" that give away when they're bluffing with a weak hand. Scientists who commit fraud have similar, but even more subtle, tells, and a pair of Stanford researchers have cracked the writing patterns of scientists who attempt to pass along falsified data.

The work, published in the Journal of Language and Social Psychology, could eventually help scientists identify falsified research before it is published.

There is a fair amount of research dedicated to understanding the ways liars lie. Studies have shown that liars generally tend to express more negative emotion terms and use fewer first-person pronouns. Fraudulent financial reports typically display higher levels of linguistic obfuscation – phrasing that is meant to distract from or conceal the fake data – than accurate reports.

"We believe the underlying idea behind obfuscation is to muddle the truth," said Markowitz, the lead author on the paper. "Scientists faking data know that they are committing a misconduct and do not want to get caught. Therefore, one strategy to evade this may be to obscure parts of the paper. We suggest that language can be one of many variables to differentiate between fraudulent and genuine science."

The results showed that fraudulent retracted papers scored significantly higher on the obfuscation index than papers retracted for other reasons. For example, fraudulent papers contained approximately 1.5 percent more jargon than unretracted papers.

"Fradulent papers had about 60 more jargon-like words per paper compared to unretracted papers," Markowitz said. "This is a non-trivial amount."

Some critics of a major price-action-theory educator believe their teachings are muddled with vagueness, obscurantism and jargon, although not necessarily in any similar manner to the subjects in this linked article.

In other words, honest people speak/write simply. Liars embellish and expand to hide the truth. Victims find complicated answers more compelling and believable than simple answers, to their detriment.
 
use and reply on your own ...intuition :confused: -- for the most part, it's usually right.

This forum topic reminds me of a recent movie I watched: Heartbreakers 2001...a gold-digging comedy that takes place in Palm Beach, Florida.
Heartbreakers_2001_movie.jpg
gene_hackman_heartbreakers_001.jpg
 
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There are grades of conmen. An out and out conman is a criminal. There are some very smart conmen out there who operate in the grey and borderline legal areas. An example might be a sofa company who buys materials and part manafactures in china then ships the parts to Italy where the product is then assembled and sold as Italian hand made. Actually when you start analysing where people spend money you will find all sorts of scams, some completely illegal but many more in the grey areas.

Natuzzi?? :D:rolleyes:
 
use and reply on your own ...intuition :confused: -- for the most part, it's usually right.

This forum topic reminds me of a recent movie I watched: Heartbreakers 2001...a gold-digging comedy that takes place in Palm Beach, Florida.
Heartbreakers_2001_movie.jpg
gene_hackman_heartbreakers_001.jpg
There are two conmen in this thread. One of them is Jennifer Love Hewitt:
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There are grades of conmen. An out and out conman is a criminal. There are some very smart conmen out there who operate in the grey and borderline legal areas. An example might be a sofa company who buys materials and part manafactures in china then ships the parts to Italy where the product is then assembled and sold as Italian hand made. Actually when you start analysing where people spend money you will find all sorts of scams, some completely illegal but many more in the grey areas.
http://www.vanityfair.com/unchanged/2012/07/wine-fraud-rudy-kurniawan-vintage-burgundies
Fuck these rich bastards I say.
 
Having moved to South Florida, I quickly discovered this area is crawling with schemers, dreamers and outright con men. I want to start this thread to share ways on how to spot someone who is out to con you.

My number one tell is that they insist on speaking with you or meeting with you PRIOR to sharing any details of their "deal or project".

They try to make you sign an NDA even if there is no reason for it. If they are so easy to go around, they don't have a relationship to begin with --

Another strong tell, which I learned from Rearden Metal on this site, and it has proven true is that they insist on calling you Buddy or Friend before they even know you.

Would like to see what others have used to smoke out these unsavory characters.

Thanks,

surf


Rearden Metal is that reference to Atlas Shrugged? Another tell is inconsistencies in their pitches.
 
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