How to raise capital for a Hedge Fund?

Thanks! Good points! The second point seems a bit hard to prove (in advance)! How?

The secret is to be able to articulate your strategy in a way investors can understand, So that it is tied into the way things are heading.

When i was actively raising funds -- volatility was ramping higher so strategies involving increasing vol were hot for invstors. Also HFT was starting to gain traction --so being able to articulate these exciting (new at the time or novel approach) to investors worked to raise funds.

Raising funds for traditional long/short strategies would be near impossible imho with the tremendous competition. You need to set yourself apart.

surf
 
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So maybe, we should just reword the thread title. How do you raise money for a "Managed Fund Service"?

I have actually met some ET folks with who offer these types of services. However, I would rather meet them personally, now that I am back in Chicago.

My strategy? Trader meetups and academic conferences since I am a returning student. Not that I am seriously looking to manage money, but it would be nice to have a good Rolodex with contacts. I already have target investors who won't give me headaches.

I love hearing this stuff, nice going!!

I parlayed my et contacts into millions in capital so u are doing the right thing. Get hot ideas at the conferences, link up with talent that needs capital, build a team, and do the deals with u in full control. Work your investors for referrals and you will be succesful. good luck! surf
 
But he says he does futures, options and stocks?! Would be better if he actually specialized in something and had a track record of doing it for a couple of years
 
The secret is to be able to articulate your strategy in a way investors can understand, So that it is tied into the way things are heading.

When i was actively raising funds -- volatility was ramping higher so strategies involving increasing vol were hot for invstors. Also HFT was starting to gain traction --so being able to articulate these exciting (new at the time or novel approach) to investors worked to raise funds.

Raising funds for traditional long/short strategies would be near impossible imho with the tremendous competition. You need to set yourself apart.

surf

Thanks again for good points!

To answer my own question, I guess it would be, to present/ articulate 1. the strategy must be unique (as you said - Set yourself apart); 2. meeting investors' expectations/ objective (beyond merely alpha returns); 3. matching investors' target of risk profile (as an hedge fund).

Also, a matter of confidence, and a bit of first sight/impression as well!

Comments (from anyone)?
 
I love hearing this stuff, nice going!!

I parlayed my et contacts into millions in capital so u are doing the right thing. Get hot ideas at the conferences, link up with talent that needs capital, build a team, and do the deals with u in full control. Work your investors for referrals and you will be succesful. good luck! surf

Thanks, Surf. As a returning student after 20 years, I am not exactly fantasizing about Goldman's Analyst training program. Though, they once offered to make me the photocopy boy in a window less room.

I also had some pseudo market making scheme using excel spreadsheets. But, Bob anchored me back with industry realities as he does from time to time.
 
Thanks again for good points!

To answer my own question, I guess it would be, to present/ articulate 1. the strategy must be unique (as you said - Set yourself apart); 2. meeting investors' expectations/ objective (beyond merely alpha returns); 3. matching investors' target of risk profile (as an hedge fund).

Also, a matter of confidence, and a bit of first sight/impression as well!

Comments (from anyone)?

I think you nailed it. Unique strategy that matches the customer's desired risk/return profile.

You can get small fry with a complete MVO portfolio solution. But if your going to be labeled as a hedge fund, you better have a return profile that is either vastly superior in performance or has a unique fit within a sophisticated investor's allocation.
 
Thanks, Surf. As a returning student after 20 years, I am not exactly fantasizing about Goldman's Analyst training program. Though, they once offered to make me the photocopy boy in a window less room.

I also had some pseudo market making scheme using excel spreadsheets. But, Bob anchored me back with industry realities as he does from time to time.

Are u talking about Mr. Bright as Bob? If so, one of the best ever.
 
Are u talking about Mr. Bright as Bob? If so, one of the best ever.

Nope, Morse. Never got the chance to meet Mr. Bright but I may check out his firm one day, if a shift in the industry/market improves the prospects of day trading. Namely, some HFT regulations.
 
Yes, it all starts with your track record. A verifiable track record is normally fine to start (Having the ability to print out monthly statements from the clearing firm that can't be altered). I would not spend money on an audit unless investors demand it. Then most managers, that don't know if they can raise AUM fast, start with Separately Managed Accounts (SMA). Investors prefer to have their own account to view on a daily basis with new managers. As to if you need to be a RIA in your state for that, you will have to consult an attorney or the Securities division of your state for clarity.

What you need to understand if you move in that direction, is that wealthy investors invest in the manager, his strategy and a business. They are turned off by an individual trading on their own. They want to know there is a business behind it all. A common question is, "what is his back up if something happens to him".

We work with managers looking to do just this. We don't put up capital, but as Introducing Brokers we help our clients built a business and when possible, help raise money in the future. Cap-intro is not our primary business, but we do what we can to help our clients grow. What we are good at is the guidance along the way.

Thanks for the comment. I will check with my broker how the SMA works!
 
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