How to make an Atheists head explode.

Quote from stu:

It's quite apparent you're not understanding much about any of this at all.

Were you to stop ignoring the answers given to your god damn question, then you wouldn't need to keep shouting for an answer.
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I doubt you said that in the order that you meant to

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(yes, be relieved, it's almost time to laugh at these fucking people. Loud, Hard, and Publicly)
 
Quote from unretired:

Nope ... just fishing for what would help me upgrade my ignore list.
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You come on here and right away post your religious, self righteous BS 5 to 10 times a day. You post page long crap, hint no one reads all your drivel, I tried but it wasn't well written and is self indulgant. How many forums are you posting your religion on anyway?
 
Quote from peilthetraveler:

Religion is not forced on anyone in the United States. Forcing someone would be saying "convert now or i will kill you" But just telling someone your beliefs is not forcing religion on anyone. If that was the case, then one could say McDonalds hamburgers are forced on Americans. No. McDonalds advertises and people choose if they want to eat there. Same with Religion. Christians Preach, and people can choose to believe or not to believe, or even argue that God doesnt exist if they want.

The first 3 words that God spoke to man in Genesis was "You are free..."

And that verse rings true today. You are free to choose whatever religion you want. You are free to choose to not believe in God. You are free to walk away from any preacher telling you that you are a bad person and need forgiveness. You are free to not listen to atheists rants about how everything came from nothing with a big bang. You are free to believe you are not an evolved monkey and you are free to believe you are an evolved monkey.
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I'm pretty sure we are in agreement.
I just don't believe in religion ... it is likely how I see religion ... I see it as a man effort to reach to God.

God loved us first and sent His Son Jesus. There is no religion in that at all ... just redemption of our Fathers Kids.

So ... when I make a statement like "I find it repugnant ... "

It means the same as "I find it repugnant when liberal ideaologies are forced on someone ... I see religion and rebellion as rooted in the same tree of the knowledge of good and evil ... both are deadly.

Being born again and redeemed is not a religious exercise but a relationship renewed.
 
Quote from peilthetraveler:

Religion is not forced on anyone in the United States. Forcing someone would be saying "convert now or i will kill you" But just telling someone your beliefs is not forcing religion on anyone. If that was the case, then one could say McDonalds hamburgers are forced on Americans. No. McDonalds advertises and people choose if they want to eat there. Same with Religion. Christians Preach, and people can choose to believe or not to believe, or even argue that God doesnt exist if they want.

The first 3 words that God spoke to man in Genesis was "You are free..."

And that verse rings true today. You are free to choose whatever religion you want. You are free to choose to not believe in God. You are free to walk away from any preacher telling you that you are a bad person and need forgiveness. You are free to not listen to atheists rants about how everything came from nothing with a big bang. You are free to believe you are not an evolved monkey and you are free to believe you are an evolved monkey.
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...and free to say why religious beliefs are nearly always nonsensical , contradictory , encourage ignorance and are often self-serving, delusional and divisive.
 
Quote from stu:

...and free to say why religious beliefs are nearly always nonsensical , contradictory , encourage ignorance and are often self-serving, delusional and divisive.
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amen... I mean right on :cool:

stu do have these dicussions with believers in person?

I don't make my lack of beliefs known to many. There is too much ignorance, fear and prejudice against those who don't believe as the the Christians do. Most all of the old folks in my family are staunch baptists and it would distress them to know one of there loved ones didn't believe. I definatly don't broadcast my beliefs to my customers, they couldn't comprehend it and I might lose some business. I treat it like I do with my 4 year old grandson when he talks about Santa Claus. Except the christians will always believe in myths.
 
Quote from stu:

...and free to say why religious beliefs are nearly always nonsensical , contradictory , encourage ignorance and are often self-serving, delusional and divisive.
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As is the religon of Atheism. http://firstchurchofatheism.com/

How long are you going to go ahead in circles with your bullshit??

The more you talk the deeper of a hole you dig for yourself.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

amen... I mean right on :cool:

stu do have these dicussions with believers in person?

I don't make my lack of beliefs known to many. There is too much ignorance, fear and prejudice against those who don't believe as the the Christians do. Most all of the old folks in my family are staunch baptists and it would distress them to know one of there loved ones didn't believe. I definatly don't broadcast my beliefs to my customers, they couldn't comprehend it and I might lose some business. I treat it like I do with my 4 year old grandson when he talks about Santa Claus. Except the christians will always believe in myths.
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I'm like yourself I think bigarrow. I choose carefully what I say to people when face to face about anything really , not just religion. I think it's important not to be too opinionated about anything , as one can be on a message board.
I meet people who will voice what I would find as obnoxious sentiments about many things, to do with race, or government, or religion etc., and I generally will try to circumvent or redirect the discussion. Most stuff doesn't bother me. Live and let live.

However I will not be held to ransom. If someone ever wanted me to say or do something not in line with my own ethical standards or moral standings, then I will always decline. For instance I never would do anything with anyone who made belief in any God a condition, nor if invited to give my opinion, shirk from what I have to say about religion. I would never coerce anyone to adopt my opinions, so I expect it's reasonable for people not to force their beliefs onto me.

So many cannot discuss the matter of religion coherently anyway.
jficquette is a case in point. He wants to me to believe that people who have no belief have a belief.
You really can't do much with a mentality like his. He reminds me of those type who everyone quickly edges away from at cocktail parties.
 
What a crackup...

stu claims he has no beliefs but is loaded with opinions...

You just can't make this kind of shit up if you tried...

Quote from stu:

I'm like yourself I think bigarrow. I choose carefully what I say to people when face to face about anything really , not just religion. I think it's important not to be too opinionated about anything , as one can be on a message board.
I meet people who will voice what I would find as obnoxious sentiments about many things, to do with race, or government, or religion etc., and I generally will try to circumvent or redirect the discussion. Most stuff doesn't bother me. Live and let live.

However I will not be held to ransom. If someone ever wanted me to say or do something not in line with my own ethical standards or moral standings, then I will always decline. For instance I never would do anything with anyone who made belief in any God a condition, nor if invited to give my opinion, shirk from what I have to say about religion. I would never coerce anyone to adopt my opinions, so I expect it's reasonable for people not to force their beliefs onto me.

So many cannot discuss the matter of religion coherently anyway.
jficquette is a case in point. He wants to me to believe that people who have no belief have a belief.
You really can't do much with a mentality like his. He reminds me of those type who everyone quickly edges away from at cocktail parties.
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Quote from stu:

Ooo lookey... two religious fascists now to tell people who don't have belief they have beliefs.
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ya no belief is somehow magically belief too. is 777 from Wonderland :"Sometimes I believe as many as six impossible things before breakfast."



:D
 
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