Quote from killthesunshine:
simple, produce your god and we are all believers 
failing that well then you better have your evidence ducks all in a row
because you are making one hellava extraordinary claim
Thank you for being civil.
I was addressing believers. Those who aren't ... they are free to believe as they wish. That isn't my role.
So my claims should be seen as "my opinion" though for me they are based
on my experiences and belief and faith. Others are free to do the same.
I find it repugnant when religion is forced on others. Only the hungry and thirsty need apply.
There is a clear difference between those who have true peace and demonstrate care
and love and service to others versus the "religious or rebellious."
One can tell a whole lot about people by what comes out of them.
Usually there are 4 camps:
1) religious, self righteous
2) rebellious, bitter and angry
3) seeker, truth hungry
4) spiritual
Unfortunately many of the "spiritual" camp have mixture and error and frailty.
Of that camp many really have a right heart and speak that way.
It is a pretty strait forward principle ... "Light and truth when communicated will reveal things and
force things to rise up and manifest their inner nature."
Eph 5:13-14 But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the
light, for whatever makes manifest is light.