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how did romney get away with paying no income tax?
- Thread starter Free Thinker
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Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
Romney should just say : " I made a lot of money and my tax returns, like others in my position, are very complex. No public purpose would be served by releasing them. They have been throroughly vetted by the IRS and I have paid all sums owing to the government. "
Then everytime someone mentions them, call it an attempt to distract attention form the failed Obama economy and to engage in class envy hate the successful demagoguery.
1) Your advice to Romney is to condescend to the average American. I don't think that would be well received. People aren't curious about his returns because they think he might be a tax cheat, but because they are curious about the man who wants to be President. As the background of Obama is fair game, so should that of Romney. There is a reason he does not want to release his tax returns. Perhaps he will he will release his returns, showing extravagant wealth, esoteric tax shelters,
and a low gross tax rate due to the fact that most of his income is from capital gains. His released returns are already a window into the byzantine and rarefied financial world occupied by such uber wealthy consummate insiders as Romney. I suspect he has gambled that the less the public truly knows about certain facets of him, the better. After all, he is the 1% of the 1% of the 1%.
The problem for Romney is that he is not a charismatic figure; his strength lies in the intense dislike of Obama by conservative stalwarts and the disappointment among fence sitters who voted for Obama in 2008. You can't win the Presidency from an incumbent by default. (You can, however, do it with no incumbent: Bush vs Dukakis, e.g.) You must have a compelling and charismatic story that can rise beyond the pressing issues of the day. A challenger to the throne needs to instill the belief he could be a good President in any time. Romney isn't doing this.
Further, Romney's core beliefs shift with the sand: abortion and health care to name 2 examples. Perhaps this is a good, as it may indicate efficacious practicality unthwarted by ideology. Claiming he has the goods because he ran a business and was in the private sector rings hollow. I think 96% of working Americans are under the same classification - private sector - and few would claim to be prepared to occupy the Oval Office
Quote from jem:
I will release my taxes when obama releases...
transcripts and other docs relating to his attendance as a foreigner.
That's a great zinger that will earn you a lot of reputation points on an internet message board, but it does nothing to help Romney's election chances. He is giving Obama ammunition for attack ads. Even if it's true that Romney paid little or no taxes in the years in question, he still needs to release them to get the shit storm over with. Otherwise, it's just one more arrow in Obama's corporate villain quiver. If you want Romney to win, you want him to release his tax returns. He should have done it during the primaries, the longer he waits, the worse the fallout will be.
Quote from hughb:
That's a great zinger that will earn you a lot of reputation points on an internet message board, but it does nothing to help Romney's election chances. He is giving Obama ammunition for attack ads. Even if it's true that Romney paid little or no taxes in the years in question, he still needs to release them to get the shit storm over with. Otherwise, it's just one more arrow in Obama's corporate villain quiver. If you want Romney to win, you want him to release his tax returns. He should have done it during the primaries, the longer he waits, the worse the fallout will be.
its only a shit storm on the left.
We all fricken know he made a lot of money and tried to legally minimize his taxes. He was probably very successful at doing it.
Just like Obama advisor... General Electric.
that is why our tax could needs to be flat with no personal income tax.
Quote from jem:
its only a shit storm on the left.
We are fricken know he made a lot of money and try to legally minimize his taxes.
And a shit storm is exactly what the left needs to energize their base and get the occutards off the couch and into the voting booth. Romney needs to get this over with now and let the occutards get back to smoking dope and sleeping all day.
Quote from hughb:
That's a great zinger that will earn you a lot of reputation points on an internet message board, but it does nothing to help Romney's election chances. He is giving Obama ammunition for attack ads. Even if it's true that Romney paid little or no taxes in the years in question, he still needs to release them to get the shit storm over with. Otherwise, it's just one more arrow in Obama's corporate villain quiver. If you want Romney to win, you want him to release his tax returns. He should have done it during the primaries, the longer he waits, the worse the fallout will be.
yep. what he said. romney is banking on the press losing interest. which they will, but damage will be done to his credibility very close to the election.
of course this all assumes that there is nothing borderline illegal in there. i am beginning to think there might be. only an idiot would hold out this long if his returns are legit.
Quote from hughb:
And a shit storm is exactly what the left needs to energize their base and get the occutards off the couch and into the voting booth. Romney needs to get this over with now and let the occutards get back to smoking dope and sleeping all day.
Releasing returns which show capital gains rates and then tons of exclusions is not going to do Romney any good.
Just like it wont do Obama any good to release school history showing he got in as a foreigner.
Quote from good ole boy:
1) Your advice to Romney is to condescend to the average American.
2) These guys are bums too.
I have no advice for Romney regarding his taxes. As I said in a previous post, if he was dishonest with his taxes, he would be under the IRS gun, especially with this admin.
Quote from Free Thinker:
yep. what he said. romney is banking on the press losing interest. which they will, but damage will be done to his credibility very close to the election.
of course this all assumes that there is nothing borderline illegal in there. i am beginning to think there might be. only an idiot would hold out this long if his returns are legit.
Obama's campaign has seen the returns and told Reid what they contain, and that's why Reid went to the press with his comments. There's nothing illegal in there, otherwise the IRS would have audited and Reid would know about it. CNN ran a story yesterday that says Reid's source was "legit". That means the returns have been seen by someone who could get to them.