How Can Americans Support Baby Killers?

[reg]

Quote from mahram:

so your saying you have about 25 million muslims living the us, by the last figures thier was only 6.5 million. You have a population of 250 milion not including illegal immigrants. and that figure is 300million. Since most of the illegal immigrants come from mexico, a predominantely catholic country. Where do you get 25 million muslims.

This post of yours shows that you are a complete idiot. If you can't even comprehend a simple post like what dddoo was trying to convey, then that means you are incapable of any type of rational conversation.
I think it's time for Canada to enforce stricter immigration rules to prevent another wave of idiots like you from entering their country.

 

[Sam123]

Interesting how this military incident doesn’t have the legs Abu Gharib had. They keep trying to light the fire but the fire goes out. Murtha is the last clueless man standing and proof that experience doesn’t guarantee wisdom.

Unlike the Abu Gharib days, we have enough people today that know a cut and run would have far worse consequence than all military screw-ups combined –past, present and future.

 

[mahram]

no b/c the report hasnt been released yet. In about the june 21st just when the slow news part of the year comes along, it will be release. This is following the same path of abu grav. In the beginning you had people saying it wasnt a big deal, till the investigation released it results. Or the cartoons, which didnt explode till months after. Or my lai, which took over 8 months till the full report came out.

Quote from Sam123:

Interesting how this military incident doesn’t have the legs Abu Gharib had. They keep trying to light the fire but the fire goes out. Murtha is the last clueless man standing and proof that experience doesn’t guarantee wisdom.

Unlike the Abu Gharib days, we have enough people today that know a cut and run would have far worse consequence than all military screw-ups combined –past, present and future.

 

[mahram]

I think it is time for the american people to enforce their own constituion. in fact alot of americans keep preaching freedom and democracy. when alot of republicans have no respect for democracy or freedom. Alot of americans say dont interfere with our domestic policy. Ie the mexican government interfering with immigration. but the same americans have no qualms with interfering with mexican domestic drug laws.

Quote from reg:

This post of yours shows that you are a complete idiot. If you can't even comprehend a simple post like what dddoo was trying to convey, then that means you are incapable of any type of rational conversation.
I think it's time for Canada to enforce stricter immigration rules to prevent another wave of idiots like you from entering their country.

 

[reg]

Quote from mahram:

I think it is time for the american people to enforce their own constituion. in fact alot of americans keep preaching freedom and democracy. when alot of republicans have no respect for democracy or freedom. Alot of americans say dont interfere with our domestic policy. Ie the mexican government interfering with immigration. but the same americans have no qualms with interfering with mexican domestic drug laws.

WTF are you talking about? My post was about you being an idiot, nothing else.
You talk like one of your fellow suicidal ragheads.

 

[jem]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:


In the same way that Irish Catholics who engaged in terrorism didn't make Catholicism an evil religion, millions and millions of Muslims practice Islam peacefully worldwide clearly showing that Islam alone is not the cause of violence and intolerance. [/B]

This is a false analogy. The Catholic church is basically as liberal as you zzzz except you believe in killing babies inside a mother womb. (a very regressive barbaric practice by the way). Every Sunday we get three readings from the bible then a little lesson from priest on the bible. Then we pray for all the people who are killed in wars or other tragic events. Then we are asked to pray for the leaders of the world to find ways to settle disputes without resorting to violence. I hear that just about every week (I do miss some weeks). The bishops are pretty much against killing in any form and this influences the priests in almost all the churches.

now I do not get the same feeling about Islam when I read the fatwas and hear what the Imams are saying in some of the mosques.

While many christians do not like the Pope and prefer a decentralized structure. One thing such a structure does give you is consistency in message. The Catholic church has been very much against killing at least since Vatican II.

Some some Catholis in Ireland may have been terroists but they were not acting as Catholics they were acting as terrorists.

Muslims have been taught to suicide bomb in their Mosques. Your comparison fails.

 

[mahram]

my post was about you being an american idiot. And how am I being idiot. My point still stands alot of americans will make excuses to why these marines purposively killed little girls. Even thought they have started to turn against each other and admit their crimes.

Quote from reg:

WTF are you talking about? My post was about you being an idiot, nothing else.
You talk like one of your fellow suicidal ragheads.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

I agree, that excuses will be made by some Americans for the behavior of American soldiers, just like some Muslims excuse the murders committed by fellow Muslims in the name of God.

I do suspect though, that on a percentage basis, we will see more Muslims excuse suicide bombers for their behavior than we will see Americans excuse the murders by American soldiers.

Quote from mahram:

my post was about you being an american idiot. And how am I being idiot. My point still stands alot of americans will make excuses to why these marines purposively killed little girls. Even thought they have started to turn against each other and admit their crimes.

 

[Pabst]

For starters: The conflict in Ireland was NOT religious. It WAS geographical/political. The opposing parties should have really been identified as loyalists vs. rebels but the press found Catholic vs. Protestant the easier label.

Z? you're fallacious argument would be akin to me telling someone that if racial prejudice in America is bona fide then why are there white missionaries working in Africa? Not ALL Muslims are anti-West or anti non-Muslim. Many (most?) are. But it's obvious that if a Muslim were hard core anti-American he wouldn't emigrate to America.

As far as the alleged atrocities in Iraq. Whenever you get 100,000 young adults in one place, let alone 100,000 military minded young men in a foreign land fighting a lethal enemy, there's going to be crime. I imagine the number of murders, rapes, robberies ect. in Iraq as committed by our G.I.'s has been staggering. The same way the murder rate in Compton is staggering. That's no excuse, it's just the way things are. There's soldiers who commit crimes. Just as there's traders, cops, judges, imams and boy scouts who commit crimes.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Quote from Pabst:

For starters: The conflict in Ireland was NOT religious. It WAS geographical/political. The opposing parties should have really been identified as loyalists vs. rebels but the press found Catholic vs. Protestant the easier label.

Nonsense. Religion was very much part of it.

Z? you're fallacious argument would be akin to me telling someone that if racial prejudice in America is bona fide then why are there white missionaries working in Africa?

Racial prejudice in America is bona fide.


Not ALL Muslims are anti-West or anti non-Muslim.

No, that was the point I was making to demonstrate the flaw in the argument previous stated.

Many (most?) are.

Not in America.

But it's obvious that if a Muslim were hard core anti-American he wouldn't emigrate to America.

Not if he was on a mission to convert Americans to Islam.

Your White Christian missionary in Africa comes to mind....

As far as the alleged atrocities in Iraq. Whenever you get 100,000 young adults in one place, let alone 100,000 military minded young men in a foreign land fighting a lethal enemy, there's going to be crime. I imagine the number of murders, rapes, robberies ect. in Iraq as committed by our G.I.'s has been staggering. The same way the murder rate in Compton is staggering. That's no excuse, it's just the way things are. There's soldiers who commit crimes. Just as there's traders, cops, judges, imams and boy scouts who commit crimes.

I don't see a point. There isn't necessarily going to be a crime simply because of the numbers of young men.

The reason this is a story, an important story is the same as when a judge is found guilty of corruption, compared to a guy in the mail room.

Not only that, if this story were of USSR troops killing innocent Afghanistanis during their invasion of Afghanistan, people would say "Those evil commies" so why wouldn't those American soldiers be just as evil...or maybe they are actually worse because they are supposed to be the good guys rescuing the innocent Iraq people from the bad guys....

I continue to hold leadership mostly responsible for these events, though we know that leadership won't take the blame, nor will they do much to prevent it from happening in the future.