He can move, so could all the Israelis...I am sure they could finagle some land here in the states...
Homage to Herzliya; Homage to Herzliya
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"You're too easy. I would have given you EXACTLY what you wanted so badly, just a couple posts ago- Reasons why I <b>don't</b> think Israel is 100% right or 100% blameless.
Probably comes as a shock to a "genius" like yourself who plays big fish in a dinky little pond, but I never read your posts with any great concentration, I get the vibe quite quickly enough without wasting energy on the demented logic of someone who has on multiple occasions proposed violence as a means to regain lost control of a discussion...
All you had to do was complete the simplest of tasks, yet your worm infested troll mind just couldn't allow you to do anything remotely resembling cooperation. Poor little troll... back under the bridge you go...
Continue feeling that fantasy sense of superiority, it too is fleeting...but heck, keep trying to convince the audience that you ain't crazy...
Amazing that you continue to go back to the familiar, publicly perpetuating your fantasy life with imaginations of trolls and bridges, most adults let that story go long ago when the learned to sleep in the dark alone without a night light and blankie...
Truly impressive though how you ran away like a stuck pig for a couple of weeks, then came back with a fantasy story to soothe the damage psyche...when all a sane person would have to do is click the ignore button...
Oh, that's right, you like to fantasize that you are some insane genius...
Cracks me up...
Really fascinating what a different opinion can do the equanimity of a buper...
Probably comes as a shock to a "genius" like yourself who plays big fish in a dinky little pond, but I never read your posts with any great concentration, I get the vibe quite quickly enough without wasting energy on the demented logic of someone who has on multiple occasions proposed violence as a means to regain lost control of a discussion...
All you had to do was complete the simplest of tasks, yet your worm infested troll mind just couldn't allow you to do anything remotely resembling cooperation. Poor little troll... back under the bridge you go...
Continue feeling that fantasy sense of superiority, it too is fleeting...but heck, keep trying to convince the audience that you ain't crazy...
Amazing that you continue to go back to the familiar, publicly perpetuating your fantasy life with imaginations of trolls and bridges, most adults let that story go long ago when the learned to sleep in the dark alone without a night light and blankie...
Truly impressive though how you ran away like a stuck pig for a couple of weeks, then came back with a fantasy story to soothe the damage psyche...when all a sane person would have to do is click the ignore button...
Oh, that's right, you like to fantasize that you are some insane genius...
Cracks me up...
Really fascinating what a different opinion can do the equanimity of a buper...
Slick boy!!! Very slick Zionist colonizing boy!!!
The 30 Billion dollar offer had two conditions that you forgot to mention.
1- was to be divided between the Palestinians and the Jews who left the Arab states!
Of course we will refuse!! Jews are welcomed to go back to any of the Arab states that they left without pre-conditions as per the offer made to you by many of the Arab leaders
In addition, in many Arab states, it is your zionist agents who forced the Jews to flee the Arab states by bombing their synagogs and blaming it on us.
Finally, We are willing to go out of our way for a compromise! You see, even though the Arab state are expressing their readiness to welcome you back and even compensate you for loses caused by no one but you, it is something you pick with the other Arab states not me!!! I, as a Palestinian, did not cause any of that! It was your fascist ideology and hate to everything that is not zionist, including JEWS that caused it!!
2- The other condition was is that we forgo our right over East Jerusalem! We were offered to accept some neighborhoods around Jerusalem (Not in East Jerusalem) Like Ayzareyah and Abu Deese!
You thought that you could buy us with 30 Billion dollars. You thought that we will drop everything for your 30 Billion??
You thought that threats and the gestures made by some Zionists in the American administration would make us give up our rights???
Funny and slick zionist colonizing boy!!
What are you talking about Wael? The compensation offer was part of the Clinton/Barak peace proposal, the palestinians were getting virtually all their land back including full control over East Jerusalem, the return of a limited number of refugees back to Israel and an international fund to compensate the rest of the refugees. I have never seen a specific dollar amount so if you could back up your 30 billion dollar claim please provide a link. Then again if you believe 30 billion is not good enough why don't your name your price, I don't remember Arafat doing it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit#Refugees_and_the_right_of_return
And btw the Jews were expelled en masse from the arab countries, they were persecuted, their lives were in danger, their property was confiscated. These are facts Wael. Of course Israel encouraged them to immigrate as it wanted to save their lives. That Israel wanted to and did save their lives does not remove the responsibility of the Arab states for the wrongs they committed. And just because no sane person is willing to go back to live in shitholes like Yemen, Iraq or Syria does not mean that the jews are not entitled to a fair compensation for the expulsion, persecution, loss of property and disruption of their lives. Claiming that they are welcome to go back to those countries is a disgusting and disingenuous attempt to avoid responsibility.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands
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What are you talking about Wael? The compensation offer was part of the Clinton/Barak peace proposal, the palestinians were getting virtually all their land back including full control over East Jerusalem, the return of a limited number of refugees back to Israel and an international fund to compensate the rest of the refugees. I have never seen a specific dollar amount so if you could back up your 30 billion dollar claim please provide a link. Then again if you believe 30 billion is not good enough why don't your name your price, I don't remember Arafat doing it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit#Refugees_and_the_right_of_return
Khahahaha!! No you are wrong!!! On top of all of our land back, we were also getting half of the US!!!
Do you know how not to lie dddooo? I think you will malfunction if you tried. Honestly!!!
You did not give us anything, you wanted to give us transitional control over Gaza and Jericho for five years. You did not give any guarantees that you will not confiscate nor steal land. You also wanted us to be your guard dogs against any of our people that raises his voice in protest against your continuous land theft.
East Jerusalem??
"In 1993, the Declaration of Principles (see Oslo peace process) signed by the PLO and Israel provided, during the final stage of the peace negotiations, for a discussion on the status of Jerusalem. Benjamin Netanyahu, the current Israeli Prime Minister (Likud), considers the status of Jerusalem to be non-negotiable.
In 1995, a "Metropolitan Plan for Jerusalem" was developed by the Israeli government to encompass Greater Jerusalem (the eastern and western parts) and a part of the West Bank (15% of the territory). If implemented, this plan could lead to the increasingly rapid development of Jewish settlements in this area."
http://www.medea.be/index.html?page=0&lang=en&doc=186
So during the five year transitional period, you did the above!!!
So during such time, you did the following;
Jerusalem Palestinians are considered as foreign residents. They have - rescindable - residency permits issued by the Israeli authorities which allow them to take part in municipal elections. The policy of the Interior Ministry towards them - endorsed on 30 December 1996 by the Israeli Supreme Court - is severe and arbitrary (especially since 1994). In 30 years, an estimated 50,000 to 100,000 Arab residents in Jerusalem have lost their right of residency in the city. These include, for example, Jerusalem Palestinians who lived for over seven years outside the city limits. An estimated 55,000 Jerusalem Palestinians could be affected by this policy in the future. During the first two weeks of January 1997, 233 Palestinian residents in Jerusalem were issued with expulsion orders. Palestinian refugees from camps located within the limits of Greater Jerusalem (the Shufat and Kalandia camps) have absolutely no political rights. Finally, except derogation, Jerusalem is closed since March 1993 to non-resident Palestinians.
This "policy of Judaization" which has been conducted openly by the Israeli government to reduce the Arab presence in Jerusalem is starting to bear fruit. While in 1990, there was still a majority of 150,000 Palestinians against 120,000 Jews in the eastern part of the city, the ratio has been reversed to the benefit of the latter. In 1993, East Jerusalem counted 155.000 Palestinians (non-Jews, as they are called by the Israelis) against 160.000 Israeli Jews. Some 250,000 Israelis live in West Jerusalem.
http://www.medea.be/index.html?page=0&lang=en&doc=186
getting virtually all their land back including full control over East Jerusalem
Read above you compulsive liar! So to sum it up! Gaza and Jericho! In return, we should guard you while you expand your settlements in the west Bank and ethnically cleanse our people from East Jerusalem. Five years elapse and what do you know....There is nothing to negotiate over!
And btw the Jews were expelled en masse from the arab countries, they were persecuted, their lives were in danger, their property was confiscated These are facts Wael.
Stop it! you are killing me with your lies!
"A prominent Sephardi activist has come out against a move by the World Sephardi Federation to take an active role in attempting to retrieve property left behind by Jews in their Arab homelands.
New Yorker Liliane Shalom, who was in Israel this week for the World Sephardi Congress, said that she is skeptical of the Federation's involvement in the issue of reparations. "No one was expelled from Morocco. Jews had equal status there and they came [to Israel] willingly. Retrieving property left in Arab lands should not become a Sephardi issue."
http://wings.buffalo.edu/law/jlsa/jews_arab_lands.htm
And this is just to shut you up once and for all!
Intellectual discourse in the West highlights a Judeo-Christian tradition, yet rarely acknowledges the Judeo-Muslim culture of the Middle East, of North Africa, or of pre-Expulsion Spain (1492) and of the European parts of the Ottoman Empire. The Jewish experience in the Muslim world has often been portrayed as an unending nightmare of oppression and humiliation.
Although I in no way want to idealize that experience--there were occasional tensions, discriminations, even violence--on the whole, we lived quite comfortably within Muslim societies.
Our history simply cannot be discussed in European Jewish terminology. As Iraqi Jews, while retaining a communal identity, we were generally well integrated and indigenous to the country, forming an inseparable part of its social and cultural life. Thoroughly Arabized, we used Arabic even in hymns and religious ceremonies. The liberal and secular trends of the 20th century engendered an even stronger association of Iraqi Jews and Arab culture, which brought Jews into an extremely active arena in public and cultural life. Prominent Jewish writers, poets and scholars played a vital role in Arab culture, distinguishing themselves in Arabic speaking theater, in music, as singers, composers, and players of traditional instruments.
In Egypt, Morocco, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Tunisia, Jews became members of legislatures, of municipal councils, of the judiciary, and even occupied high economic positions. (The finance minister of Iraq in the '40s was Ishak Sasson, and in Egypt, Jamas Sanua--higher positions, ironically, than those our community had generally achieved within the Jewish state until the 1990s!)
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/arab_jew.html
and read what this Iraqi Jew is saying;
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/ameu_iraqjews.html
And read what this Yamanite Jew is saying;
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/yemenite_jews.html
And also read;
http://www.bintjbeil.com/articles/en/021016_arabjews.html
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/holy_war_stone.html
Please do me a favor, go sell your lies to a gropu of people that does not inculde a guy like me in its midst.
I also see you are still using wikipedia!! I swear...I feel like going to this post you made on that website and change it.
But unlike you, I will not be that unethical!
But unlike you, I will not be that unethical!