Homage to Herzliya; Homage to Herzliya

ZZZzzzzzzz · Jul 6, 2007

Oh, yes, you have to be right, after all, you are the genius...

No way you could possibly be wrong on this one...nope, no possible way...that would be like being on the wrong side of a trade you were sure of, and lordy lordy lordy, we all know that could never ever happen to the genius...

Now if you can only learn to stop looking down your nose at that "hole" you fantasize about...

Quote from Rearden Metal:

Thank you for providing everyone with a nice fresh example of your spiteful, malevolent and repulsive personality. That's all I need for now. Back to your hole.

Rearden Metal · Jul 7, 2007

Quote from WAEL012000:

What about occupation Rearden?? Home demolation? land anaxation??? economic stranglation??What about settlers???

I think your people need to realize that you're up against an army much stronger than anything you can put together. Lick your wounds and do what the American Indians did: Realize you've been beaten, quit fighting and Israel will quit fighting back. Then peacefully salvage whatever you can. Open some casinos too, if you'd like.

2cents · Jul 7, 2007

Quote from Rearden Metal:

Wael is here in a sincere effort to fight for a cause he strongly believes in. LoZZZer is an inhuman troll, posting here with the sole purpose of attempting to piss people off. (Learn what LoZZZer is all about, HERE.

I have a little hobby that involves saving lives. (Like this guy for example- see bottom of page.) I've made the sacrifice of disclosing personal medical details here, in an effort to save other people from going through the unnecessary, potentially lethal torment of improperly treated Endorphin-Deficiency Depression. LoZZZer is a foul creature that actually tries to use this against me! Whenever he mentions 'bupe', that's what he/it is doing.

Wael said it best:

LoZZZer has also repeatedly made jokes about his wish that Hapaboy's children be victimized by a child molester. There's a very good reason why the rest of ET treats LoZZZer like the disgusting pariah that he/it is. Think about it.

2Cents, as long as you act as though LoZZZer is some sort of rational being, here for an honest debate... I really can't have any respect for you. Hopefully you'll realize your error, and we can move on from there.

look, if its true, i think thats sick, no question. and i've seen zizzz post different shades of sick stuff as well, told him he really should consult, and not just on this thread....

hap, on another hand, has no problems hitting at people's family relationships if he's got no other card to play. i don't really care and it doesn't by any measure excuse zizzz's alleged behaviour against him, but that doesn't make hap's behaviour less despicable in my view...

as for you, i do think that your actions are very laudable in the instance you cite - i'd read it carefully, tried to assess based on my own experience, cross-checked with personal medical souces and sent the link to a friend in dire need a few months back, so, am happy to offer some sincere thanks here - also agree that its ok to have some fun on ET of course, as much as possible even! but doesn't have to be at the expense of every poster, particularly guys who are sincere and have a proper cause to defend - am not saying the israelis don't have one, they do have one - and are fighting against the odds an overwhelming media & military machine... just show a sense of fairness man...

2cents · Jul 8, 2007

Quote from Rearden Metal:

And 2Cents, doesn't reading the creature's last post make you want to wash your hands? With a simple little provokation, I've brought it's vile underbelly up on display for all to see. Now you should know what I'm talking about. If you can't see it now, there's not much else I can do for you.

c'mon, there was no threat nor anything inhuman etc in that last post from zizzz... yeah he is attempting to torment you, as some other posters attempt to torment him/her over gay-related stuff etc... anyway, you too have got to chill man... you should be able to ignore most of it...

now why don't we be nice to Wael and get back on topic?

2cents · Jul 8, 2007

Quote from Rearden Metal:

I think your people need to realize that you're up against an army much stronger than anything you can put together. Lick your wounds and do what the American Indians did: Realize you've been beaten, quit fighting and Israel will quit fighting back. Then peacefully salvage whatever you can. Open some casinos too, if you'd like.

see, THAT i personally find to be close to inhuman... and totally dishonnest behaviour, trying to present an occupying army's terrorist actions as "fighting back"...

good luck with the wishful thinking...

dddooo · Jul 8, 2007

Quote from 2cents:

trying to present an occupying army's terrorist actions as "fighting back"...

Hmm, if memory serves me the American, British and Russian armies were occupying Germany at some point of time, yet no sane person doubts that they were indeed fighting back. Of course the Germans were smart enough to capitulate, sign peace treaties, move on with their lives and actually use the occupation to their advantage to build a new life and strong relationship with the occupier.

That's too bad that you can't see beyond your nose with your simplistic "occupation=bad, resistance=freedom fighters" attitude. There are a couple of nuances in this case that you refuse to take into account. The occupier (Israel) was attacked first, moreover the occupier is more than willing to end the occupation in exchange for peace and security guarantees in full compliance with appropriate UN resolutions. In fact they did just that with willing partners - Egypt and Jordan. The occupied side in this conflict does not just want to end the occupation and liberate their people, they want to completely wipe out Israel and so far have not been willing to settle for anything less. Freedom, liberation and democracy are the last things these "freedom fighters" care about.

2cents · Jul 8, 2007

Quote from dddooo:

Hmm, if memory serves me the American, British and Russian armies were occupying Germany at some point of time, yet no sane person doubts that they were indeed fighting back. Of course the Germans were smart enough to capitulate, sign peace treaties, move on with their lives and actually use the occupation to their advantage to build a new life and strong relationship with the occupier.

That's too bad that you can't see beyond your nose with your simplistic "occupation=bad, resistance=freedom fighters" attitude. There are a couple of nuances in this case that you refuse to take into account. The occupier (Israel) was attacked first, moreover the occupier is more than willing to end the occupation in exchange for peace and security guarantees in full compliance with appropriate UN resolutions. In fact they did just that with willing partners - Egypt and Jordan. The occupied side in this conflict does not just want to end the occupation and liberate their people, they want to completely wipe out Israel and so far have not been willing to settle for anything less. Freedom, liberation and democracy are the last things these "freedom fighters" care about.

dude if thats the best you can come up with to justify Irgun, nazi-friendly Stern gang etc led massacres of entire palestinian villages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group) up to Sabra & Shatilah and beyond, and 3mio+ palestinian refugees, a US-trained, financed and equiped occupying "power" who stole the land it is operating from as you yourself admitted to in another thread, and wants the world to believe it is now just "defending" itself against the 1000+ years inhabitants... no wonder your having a hard time selling, even to brainwashed americans...

well, u've got a few days to retool, am off for a few... ciao ciao bambino

Rearden Metal · Jul 8, 2007

Quote from 2cents:

as for you, i do think that your actions are very laudable in the instance you cite - i'd read it carefully, tried to assess based on my own experience, cross-checked with personal medical souces and sent the link to a friend in dire need a few months back, so, am happy to offer some sincere thanks here...

You're welcome!

Quote from 2cents:

c'mon, there was no threat nor anything inhuman etc in that last post from zizzz... yeah he is attempting to torment you, as some other posters attempt to torment him/her over gay-related stuff etc...

Let's see: In that post he; A) Presents the ridiculous fallacy that since I've done one little altruistic thing with my life, I must therefore think of myself as some kind of Mother Theresa.
That's deliberately lying to be annoying for it's own sake.

and B) Taking my personal medical details, which I disclosed here for the sole purpose of helping others overcome a very serious problem, and trying to use that as a weapon against me!
That counts as a <b>hit below the belt</b>, no matter how you slice it. Un-sick individuals never do such things.

Quote from 2cents:

look, if its true, i think thats sick, no question. and i've seen zizzz post different shades of sick stuff as well, told him he really should consult, and not just on this thread....

...but since you have partially admitted realizing how sick the LoZZZer creature is, I shall leave you alone about that. Peace out.

2cents · Jul 13, 2007

Quote from Rearden Metal:

Let's see: In that post he; A) Presents the ridiculous fallacy that since I've done one little altruistic thing with my life, I must therefore think of myself as some kind of Mother Theresa.
That's deliberately lying to be annoying for it's own sake.

and B) Taking my personal medical details, which I disclosed here for the sole purpose of helping others overcome a very serious problem, and trying to use that as a weapon against me!
That counts as a <b>hit below the belt</b>, no matter how you slice it. Un-sick individuals never do such things.

well, i understand you are annoyed / offended and why and thats what zizzz was trying to achieve but... i don't quite follow your line of reasoning... "sarcasm" and "lie" are two different things as i'm sure you know... and there's nothing below the belt by nature in using info voluntarily disclosed by a poster to attempt to make a point / question a poster's credibility... depending on the situation, at worst it can be "bad form", in which case it would generally backlash if there is no real substance to the argument made, therefore not much to worry about...

now its clear there is a lot of history and not an ounce of mutual respect between you guys... but thats not the topic of this thread...

2cents · Jul 13, 2007

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Quote from Rearden Metal:

I think your people need to realize that you're up against an army much stronger than anything you can put together. Lick your wounds and do what the American Indians did: Realize you've been beaten, quit fighting and Israel will quit fighting back. Then peacefully salvage whatever you can. Open some casinos too, if you'd like.
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Quote from 2cents:

see, THAT i personally find to be close to inhuman... and totally dishonnest behaviour, trying to present an occupying army's terrorist actions as "fighting back"...

good luck with the wishful thinking...

this is more on-topic... let me expand on how this comes across to "un-sick people" as you say:

1. a parallel is drawn between the American Indian genocide and the Palestinian genocide

2. this is done in the most casual manner, suggesting there's nothing particularly wrong about it and people should just accept it as fact and move on

3. a totally dishonnest statement attempting to portray the criminal acts of an occupier as "fighting back"

4. an attempt at humor (mild provocation) at the end. basically inviting people to have a good laugh at the victims

i'd have to do some searches in the available nazi litterature to find similar language... or perhaps we could bring back Publisher? maybe i shldn't have asked for him to be banned after all, and Nabuchodonosor, and its other endless list of aliases...