Historians rank Trump near the bottom of U.S. presidents as Obama rises into the top 10

Agree.I think Vietnam really fucks him.If not for that his civil rights record would have him 5-10 imo

Yeah he was deep in that mess. Considering Rumsfeld’s recent passing there was a whole era of post WWII foreign interventionalism that some in the government could not see past.
 
He was but he started us down the path to the record deficits,record debt, military spending, regulation cuts, wealth inequality,union busting,tax cuts ,corporatocracy etc that we have now .He was popular and charming no doubt but so many of the problems we have today is because of him imo.
The path before Reagan was the path of Jimmy Carter...Where was that path leading to
 
He was but he started us down the path to the record deficits,record debt, military spending, regulation cuts, wealth inequality,union busting,tax cuts ,corporatocracy etc that we have now .He was popular and charming no doubt but so many of the problems we have today is because of him imo.

I don’t know. As I get older I realize that some things are right for the times. Where the failure is, is when new leadership comes along and don’t have true vision so they try to replay past leaders playbooks.

Republicans got caught up in this for decades. Everything was tax cuts and deregulation to the point they’re just braindead drones who are/were incapable of addressing issues without referring to the Reagan playbook.

The point is that the landscape is always shifting and Reagan met the landscape of his time relatively well. At least on some major economic and foreign policy issues.
 
For starters not tripling the national debt.
Mr Snark doesn't seem to recognize that Congreff appropriates money, not presidents. Budgets that have been balanced have typically been from Republican Congreff's like the one under Clinton.
 
Mr Snark doesn't seem to recognize that Congreff appropriates money, not presidents. Budgets that have been balanced have typically been from Republican Congreff's like the one under Clinton.


Bush and Trump had Republican Congreff's for part of their terms yet they never balanced the budget or cut the deficit like Obama and Clinton did.
 
Mr Snark doesn't seem to recognize that Congreff appropriates money, not presidents. Budgets that have been balanced have typically been from Republican Congreff's like the one under Clinton.

Lol. How do you live through history and have no idea what is going on around you?

It really all depends on the president but the president usually gets what they want by making some concessions to congress. This is why the president sends over a budget request and it’s the starting point for the federal budget.
 
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