1. Look at it from a govt control of your life stand point. Did it matter after the World War 2 to East Germans if they were controlled by Hitler or Stalin? When govt controls you it does not matter if the govt is identified as far left or far right. Venezuela and Cuba still suck even though they are on the left.
this is the 70s the free speech movement...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Movement
This is the left today...
the anti conservative speech movement...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...lawsuit-will-pay-70-000-to-conservative-group
2. You have been taught this before... todays liberals are nothing like classical liberals.
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism which advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on economic freedom. Closely related to economic liberalism, it developed in the early 19th century, building on ideas from the previous century as a response to urbanization and to the Industrial Revolution in Europe and the United States.[1][2][3] Notable individuals whose ideas contributed to classical liberalism include John Locke,[4] Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Robert Malthus, and David Ricardo. It drew on the classical economic ideas espoused by Adam Smith in Book One of The Wealth of Nations and on a belief in natural law,[5]utilitarianism,[6] and progress.[7] The term "classical liberalism" was applied in retrospect to distinguish earlier 19th-century liberalism from the newer social liberalism.[8]
Evolution of core beliefs[edit]
Core beliefs of classical liberals included new ideas—which departed from both the older conservative idea of society as a family and from the later sociological concept of society as complex set of social networks. Classical liberals believe that individuals are "egoistic, coldly calculating, essentially inert and atomistic"[9] and that society is no more than the sum of its individual members.[10]
Classical liberals agreed with Thomas Hobbes that government had been created by individuals to protect themselves from each other and that the purpose of government should be to minimize conflict between individuals that would otherwise arise in a state of nature. These beliefs were complemented by a belief that laborers could be best motivated by financial incentive. This belief led to the passage of the Poor Law Amendment Act 1834, which limited the provision of social assistance, based on the idea that markets are the mechanism that most efficiently leads to wealth. Adopting Thomas Robert Malthus's population theory, they saw poor urban conditions as inevitable, they believed population growth would outstrip food production and they regarded that consequence desirable because starvation would help limit population growth. They opposed any income or wealth redistribution, which they believed would be dissipated by the lowest orders.[11]
Drawing on ideas of Adam Smith, classical liberals believed that it is in the common interest that all individuals be able to secure their own economic self-interest. They were critical of what would come to be the idea of the welfare state as interfering in a free market.[12]Despite Smith’s resolute recognition of the importance and value of labor and of laborers, they selectively criticized labour's group rights being pursued at the expense of individual rights[13] while accepting corporations' rights, which led to inequality of bargaining power.[14][15]
Classical liberals argued that individuals should be free to obtain work from the highest-paying employers while the profit motive would ensure that products that people desired were produced at prices they would pay. In a free market, both labor and capital would receive the greatest possible reward while production would be organized efficiently to meet consumer demand.[16]
Classical liberals argued for what they called a minimal state, limited to the following functions:
They asserted that rights are of a negative nature, and therefore stipulate that other individuals (and governments) are to refrain from interfering with the free market, opposing social liberals who assert that individuals have positive rights, such as the right to vote, the right to an education, the right to health care and the right to a living wage. For society to guarantee positive rights, it requires taxation over and above the minimum needed to enforce negative rights.[18][19]
- A government to protect individual rights and to provide services that cannot be provided in a free market.
- A common national defense to provide protection against foreign invaders.[17]
- Laws to provide protection for citizens from wrongs committed against them by other citizens, which included protection of private property, enforcement of contracts and common law.
- Building and maintaining public institutions.
- Public works that included a stable currency, standard weights and measures and building and upkeep of roads, canals, harbors, railways, communications and postal services.[17]
Core beliefs of classical liberals did not necessarily include democracy or government by a majority vote by citizens because "there is nothing in the bare idea of majority rule to show that majorities will always respect the rights of property or maintain rule of law".[20] For example, James Madison argued for a constitutional republic with protections for individual liberty over a pure democracy, reasoning that in a pure democracy a "common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole...and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party".[21]
In the late 19th century, classical liberalism developed into neo-classical liberalism, which argued for government to be as small as possible to allow the exercise of individual freedom. In its most extreme form, neo-classical liberalism advocated Social Darwinism.[22]Right-libertarianism is a modern form of neo-classical liberalism.[22]
You’re such a confused person you can’t understand that things like postal roads and government funded water projects were just as radical of thoughts as social security.
What you’re saying is that an iPhone isn’t a phone because it isn’t the same model as the phone Alexander graham bell invented because it evolved over time.
So-called classical liberalism is NOT the same liberalism as the liberalism of the founding fathers. Just the same way Buckley’s conservatism isn’t the same as Burke’s.
You have a poor and superficial understanding of the principles of liberalism and the government of the United States. Not only that you have a poor understanding of political thought and government itself as you continually try to claim liberalism and fascism is near the same.
I’m sorry you’re confused because you seem to have a real interest in this but your arguments are as stupid as people who argue the Dixiecrats are representative of the democrat party today.
If you wish to live in ignorance, have at it but you might find some satisfaction if you actually applied yourself and educated yourself more.