Hershey's Equity thread

[Scientist]

Quote from nononsense:



Dear AngryBull,

Are you also lazy? Don't you read everything thoroughly that's posted on this crap thread? Nononsense's case has been fully treated by Jack already. Don't waist our time around here. This is a simple followup totally in line with the preceding posts. Everything clean with nononsense. The Moderator has already to work like mad cutting foul stuff and personal insults. (This poor guy still has too weed out som s*x and some f*ck*ng around here, don't keep him up now). Nononsense is simply doing some exercice in sanity. He promised to eat crow from Labor Day on.

Keep on writing AngryBull, you're quite welcome, but please first study the preceding posts. We don't believe in censorship around here. Free for all, as long as you are as clean as nononsense.

Yours truly,

nononsense

How come you're insulting brother AngryBull? He's a very good trader and possibly better than you! At least he has brought a lot more valuable contributions than you have!

"Exercise in sanity"? "As clean as nononsense"? Are you serious about those comments? If so, you probably need professional counselling.

nononsense, have you ever thought about what might be the reason for your consistent flaming? I'm sure you're aware that you're now the most well-known one on ET?

It seems that your point is to be some kind of "missionary" to tell people who or what is right or wrong or what isn't. Have you ever considered that people may have the capability of telling bogus from value themselves, without your help?

There is a clear expression of insecurity in your compulsive need to express this notion, particularly regarding Jack. I don't think Jack has ever done anything bad to you, but the other way around, you have consistently insulted him, flamed his threads and made everybody who studies his theories a target.

Are you aware of what might be causing your behaviour? Make sure you're aware of what it is, otherwise your psyche has control over you and takes you for a ride.

Have you thought about maybe doing some sort of self-evaluation or NLP course?

NLP is a great way of giving you new direction in life and to strive for a path of pursuit of excellence, rather than one of destruction, which is very important if you want to succeed and gain credibility.

Do you think you will gain credibility doing what you're curently doing? Think about it. You could contact your nearest INLPTA Office for an NLP practitioner course.

Also, some psychotherapy could do wonders to clean up your life. Please realize that psychiatrists and psychologists are there for a reason : To help you. If they don't, you can always abandon them. But make sure you know who can help you if you're in need of it. Psychoanalysis could bring some clarity in your life.

Good Luck with all this. I hope we can look forward to a "new nononsense" soon.

Anybody else who agrees with me on these notions, please confirm this in a brief post, to the benefit of brother nononsense. I appreciate your efforts.


All the Best and Compliments,
~The Scientist

 

[mark1]

Wow guys , this IGNORE LIST stuff is really cool and keeps you focused on what you really want to read.
You don't have to listen to retards anymore.
Thanks ET !

Try it for yourself.
Klick on the name of your favourite idiot and add him to your list.
That's all, it's quick and easy.
I wish the world out there had such a nice feature.
I would put my accountant on ignore for a loooong time

 

[wareco]

Quote from bubba7:


The lists come from one sort by making % increase in volume the ranking criteria.

1. This list comes from the bottom up. eliminate any low volume stocks (Use 200,000 shares as a cut off). Limit your list to 10 stocks

2. Get this list from the top using only gainers in price. It is two lists over lapped. Skip the others for now with this caliber group. Limit your list to 10 stocks.

Jack, I filtered for + price change because you wrote "get this list from the top using only gainers in price". What am I missing here?

 

[nononsense]

Hey BIG Australian scientist,

I knew you would be back soon. Your little piecie is quite clean today compared with the piece of dirt that the moderator removed yesterday. In fact I noticed already before that you are slippy as an eel.

(1) Glad you are again THE scientist. I never disputed your right to sign as you wish. I miss your little blue fellow though. Although I picked up Aussie from your own previous postings, I'll call you Australian as you indicated you like this better. This has nothing whatsoever to do with what you called "racism".

(2) Not having your removed piece before me, I noticed that you are quite some extrovert. I learned a lot about you. I am still curious to find out about your 1,000,000$ shack you told us about and the low esteem you had for the housing of average Americans. After all, you never answered me, was this in US$ or AUS$? In fact let me tell you about my living space. One of my close neighbors is called Cartier. This person, perhaps not unknown to you has very deep and huge cellars in which he keeps the treasured grape juice of our region. As we learned that you also tinker a bit with jewelry, I can tell you that Mr. Cartier has quite some fellows working way up North doing thingies like you. I don't know how your stuff compares to what I know. I don't care. I am also not going to mouth off about the value of my shackies, this is considered very bad taste around here. I can say that US$1,000,000 in fact is rather cheap for many fellows in Australia and America.

(3) On education. You told that you did most of your schooling in Australia and that your parents sent you to Germany for an "elite" education (or was it to an "elite" school). So welcome on this ET-elite thread. You are a real guy we like to have around here. Let me tell you that my parents also sent me off, first to Canada, then to the US to be further educated, not in some kind of "finishing school" with "elite standing and elastic programs" but only to non-unprestigeous University places with gruelling academic standards for commoners. I got tortured for 6 years in these "rat holes" (sorry Americans, I'm talking to THE scientist). As you are not interested in these low-class activities, I am not going to bother you further with this.

As I know quite a bit about German education, I can tell you that they also run these Universities with gruelling academic standards also around there. In fact, a German having gone through this kind of education would never dear to bragg about having been sent by his parents to undergo a "German elite education". To most people, this would be very suspect for the last 60 years.

At the high point of your removed piecie of yesterday you addressed yourself to me saying that "you got me with the b*lls" besides some other niceties. I have met many respectable Australians and I never noticed they used this kind of talk. As I am only familiar with common University education in Germany, I suppose that you must have picked up this smut from your "elite education". I can assure you that commonly educated people in Australia, Germany and America would look down on fellows bragging about $1, 000,000 houses spitting out this kind of garbage.

(4) The thing you did not tell us much about was your artistic activity. We only read that to get some references about you - I never asked for this - I simply had to ask some people living 300miles away. I'm not further curious at all about you, I simply point this out.

So long BIGGIE, nice to hear from you again. Watch out for the moderators around here. Some people tell us that they can be vicious.
With your prior bragging about writing books, I would think that you rather waste your time here. Bubba7 could perhaps still learn a few tricks from you. I only exercised my right to answer you. Let's not overload the pages of the good people over here with your personal little hangups. That's all.

Yours truly,

nononsense

P.S. Hey Biggie, I miss not only your cute blue fellow but also your pompous quote by Jonathan Swift with which you used to decorate your "~The Scientist

" little trade mark. I am sorry I made you a remark about this yesterday. Don't let it bend you towards false modesty quick little eel.

 

[nwbprop]

nononsense,

If you were to imagine yourself 50 years from now and looking back on today, you would find yourself realizing that what you did in this thread was immature and something that you regret.
And as you realize all this, you begin too stop, and listen carefully, too what others are trying too accomplish, too the point where you lay low until 2 weeks from now, when we know for sure if jack is what he sais.

I hope the wisdom that you would have gained 50 years from now would let you realize too lay low.If jacks strategy does work, you would find yourself 50 years from now looking back on today as being the new start because you had the wisdom too see if it works.

give him a chance.....its only 2 weeks. 50 years of wisdom would allow yourself too wait 2 weeks.

sincerely,

jc

 

[iceman1]

Quote from nononsense:

Hey BIG Australian scientist,

I knew you would be back soon. Your little piece is quite clean today compared with the piece of dirt that the moderator removed yesterday. In fact I noticed already before that you are slippy as an eel.

(1) Glad you are again THE scientist. I never disputed your right to sign as you wish. I miss your little blue fellow though. Although I picked up Aussie from your own previous postings, I'll call you Australian as you indicated you like this better. This has nothing whatsoever to do with what you called "racism".

(2) Not having your removed piece before me, I noticed that you are quite some extrovert. I learned a lot about you. I am still curious fo find out about your 1,000,000$ shack you told us about and the low esteem you had for the housing of average Americans. After all, you never answered me, was this in US$ or AUS$? In fact let me tell you about my living space. One of my close neighbors is called Cartier. This person, perhaps not unknown to you has very deep and huge cellars in which he keeps the treasured grape juice of our region. As we learned that you also tinker a bit with jewelry, I can tell you that Mr. Cartier has quite some fellows working way up North doing thingies like you. I don't know how your stuff compares to what I know. I don't care. I am also not going to mouth off about the value of my shackies, this is considered very bad taste around here. I can say that US$1,000,000 in fact is rather cheap for many fellows in Australia and America.

(3) On education. You told that you did most of your schooling in Australia and that your parents sent you to Germany for an "elite" education (or was it to an "elite" school). So welcome on this ET-elite thread. You are a real guy we like to have around here. Let me tell you that my parents also sent me off, first to Canada, then to the US to be further educated, not in some kind of "finishing school" with "elite standing and elastic programs" but only to non-unprestigeous University places with gruelling academic standards for commoners. I got tortured for 6 years in these "rat holes" (sorry Americans, I'm talking to THE scientist). As you are not interested in these low-class activities, I am not going to bother you further with this.

As I know quite a bit about German education, I can tell you that they also run these Universities with gruelling academic standards also around there. In fact, a German having gone through this kind of education would never dear to bragg about having been sent by his parents to undergo a "German elite education". To most people, this would be very suspect for the last 60 years.

At the high point of your removed piecie of yesterday you addressed yourself to me saying that "you got me with the b*lls" besides some other niceties. I have met many respectable Australians and I never noticed then use this kind of talk. As I am only familiar with common University education in Germany, I suppose that you must have picked up this smut from your "elite education". I can assure you that commonly educated people in Australia, Germany and America would look down on fellows bragging about $1, 000,000 houses spitting out this kind of garbage.

(4) The thing you did not tell us much about was your artistic activity. We only read that to get some references about you - I never asked for this - I simply had to ask some people living 300miles away. I'm not further curious at all about you, I simply point this out.

So long BIGGIE, nice to hear from you again. Watch out for the moderators around here. Some people tell us that they can be vicious.
With your prior bragging about writing books, I would think that you rather waste your time here. Bubba7 could perhaps still learn a few tricks from you. I only exercised my right to answer you. Let's not overload the pages of the good people over here with your personal little hangups. That's all.

Yours truly,

nononsense

P.S. Hey Biggie, I miss not only your cute blue fellow but also your pompous quote by Jonathan Swift with which you used to decorate your "~The Scientist

" little trade mark. I am sorry I made you a remark about this yesterday. Don't let it bend you towards false modesty quick little eel.

I am just curious since I have not read much of the stuff from you and "Scientist", BUT... do you think it was worth your energy and effort to type that long commentary!

If so.. why?

What did it do for you?!

Why did it make you feel "good" to provoke negativity and defend yourself... particularly anonymously?!

What would it be like if you were both in the same room!

TOO weird... and, an unnecessary use of chi!

ICe



p.s. that is my final comment...

 

[nononsense]

Dear Iceman,

I fully understand your incomprehension. Indeed all of this is preposterous and your are probably as perplexed by this as I was reading all this yesterday.

Maybe your advise would have been wiser. I can tell you that I never encountered such an extravagant address in my life before and I can assure you that I will never reply to this "elite" fellow again.

I simply felt compelled to write an answer to this. As to Jack's things, he may have one follower, 100 followers or 10,000 followers. This should not stand in the way of people to challange him, especially with his pretentious attitude to some posters. We'll see him at work in a few days. This is my sole motive. Let us finally keep him to some standards better than smoke.

In fact, given the wealth of available documents online on his previous activities, I stand on my right to question him. After all I use very little space if you truly would tally up.

I appreciate your wise commentry,

nononsense

 

[gms]

Jack: This may be a good point for me to illustrate why it is that your posts become, to some, flammable material. But more importantly, why it is that the same reason makes for l-o-n-g threads and confusion. The confusion occurs to bright minds, full of thoughts and reasonings, not to lazy inept minds, as some have suggested, who themselves seem to be trying to get it too.

By this point in the thread, we've had quite some numerous posts about how to setup this list at stocktables. Yet, responses about it indicate errors figuring out what settings will produce a list of about the requirement of 100 stocks, as these back-and-forth posts read like people grasping around (for lack of a better description) trying to figure out just what settings will result in the desired 100 list.

This has been going on for at least the last 6 pages of this thread.

Everytime someone posts results, as you requested early in the thread that they do, your responses have ranged from general, such as, "lower the EPS and RS to increase the list", which is acceptable, to nonsensical, "Do you have any buddies? a girl who is into money would be great", which is clearly not the answer.

It seems to me that all involved would benefit, and that this thread would be streamlined and compact, and all could quickly be on the same page and up to speed - if you specifically stated the settings this first time around: to set the example. That is still teaching by showing the model, instead of having people grasp around trying, trying again and posting after post with each subsequent stock search. If you clearly specify what today's settings will yield an acceptable list, others can get it now, see it now, understand what the results are supposed to be now, know solidly what they are to obtain next week when they do it again, and cut out all the back and forth 'what volume?', 'what this?', 'what that?' type questions continually making up chunks of this thread, as they wouldn't be needed to be asked anymore once you've spelled it out completely, clearly and specifically.

Don't you agree?

I've got a base list of 112 stocks for my efforts at stocktables. Min Price= $10, RS=90+, EPS=60+. Vol%Change is set to 'All' in order to obtain all possible candidates to be ranked by volume as a next step in excel. For, if I adjust the settings in stocktables to result in Vol%Changes of >50 or more instead of 'All', then I have to reset RS down to 70, EPS to 40 in order to obtain 96 candidates, and as you give the sense that high RS is important - that's why we're using RS after all - it seems to me that we don't want a setting of 70 for RS, even if it obtains 96 candidates with Vol%Change of at least 50 or more.

This question results from nothing having been strictly spelled out along these lines in all these posts.

So now, I have selected 'All' for Vol%Change, and then in excel I further weed out the sub 200,000 volume tickers and then sort for increase in Vol% Change. That leaves me with 62 candidates. I'm supposed to select 10. Or am I supposed to select three lists of 10 each, I can't really fathom specifically from the posts. Either way, what's the criteria for narrowing these to 10 or 3 lists of 10, whatever the case may be? In one post you write to then 'use only gainers in price' without specifying what the context/timeframe was for that, and in a later post you seemingly contradictingly state not to select based on price increase. Again, questions resulting from lack of clear instruction that only serves to lengthen the thread, having people spend hours instead of minutes for answers that should have been set up front, happening because not much has been said specifically.

So, I don't know if I've got the method you're espousing or not, even after reading all these posts, I still can't tell if this is what you have in your mind or not. I read your instructions as per outlined in your post of 08-22-03 06:23 PM, which was the most detailed explanation I could find throughout this whole thread. Why can't all your posts be at least as detailed as that?

Now, despite what others may think, I'm not 'lazy' looking to be spoon fed all the answers, my reading comprehension has always been excellent, maybe too much so. But good lord, we don't have to spend hours on this thread when one model will do. THEN if people still don't get it after a few questions are subsequently cleared up, then maybe the problem becomes their comprehension instead of lack of details, no?

I hope my suggestion above to you is taken in the right vein and not as a flame and will be helpful in making matters from this point forward concise.

 

[kleck]

Quote from wareco:

Quote from bubba7:


The lists come from one sort by making % increase in volume the ranking criteria.

1. This list comes from the bottom up. eliminate any low volume stocks (Use 200,000 shares as a cut off). Limit your list to 10 stocks

2. Get this list from the top using only gainers in price. It is two lists over lapped. Skip the others for now with this caliber group. Limit your list to 10 stocks.

Jack, I filtered for + price change because you wrote "get this list from the top using only gainers in price". What am I missing here?

_________________
You are making 3 lists. 1-2-3. 2 refers to list 2 only, start from the top down using only price gainers.

 

[izeickl]

Quote from bubba7:



Instead of making up a new way you have to follow the set up directions I gave everyone.

Go to stocktables.com. you did not do that.

Set the EPS and RS at 90% to begin. You did not do that.

You set >10 bucks. you did that.

look over the rest of the stuff. i like a lot of numbers on one page, for example.

Finally you sort by: % increase in volume.

Set it and push the button.


You will get a list som manystocks long.

Adjust the length. you do that by changing eithr of both of EPS and RS.

This set up sticks so you have it for next week on Friday.

Ive read alot of Jacks stuff but being into ForEx have not attempted any of it (till now), but if you follow the text above he posted and set your settings too
RS to 80+ (RS lowered to get a approx list of 100 stocks as slight settings changes were deemed ok by Jack)
EPS 90 +
Vol%change all
sort by Vol%change

should give you 98 stocks as I have.
Out of this 98 I have found 49 that conform to > 200 000 shares.

Please see attached Excel file for the list and highlights (as per my understanding, if its wrong I feel the wrath of Jack shall be released )