Well I think we all have the list thingy down. Now what do we do to create the 3 lists of 10?
Hershey's Equity thread
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O.K. so do I have it straight now? The First list of 10 stocks comes from the bottom of the list working your way up, filtering out stocks with Vol<200K. The Second list of ten stocks comes from the top and working down, selecting only stocks with price gains. The Third list of 10 stocks comes from continuing the method you used to compile the first list of ten stocks.
Are you sure? Jack instructed to lower the EPS, not the RS, to lengthen the list. You have 98 stocks at RS of 80, I have 112 at an RS of 90. You've netted 49 that have a vol. of 200,000, I have 62. Which one of us has acceptable settings, though? You? Me? Both of us? Neither?Quote from izeickl:
Ive read alot of Jacks stuff but being into ForEx have not attempted any of it (till now), but if you follow the text above he posted and set your settings too
RS to 80+ (RS lowered to get a approx list of 100 stocks as slight settings changes were deemed ok by Jack)
EPS 90 +
Vol%change all
sort by Vol%change
should give you 98 stocks as I have.
Out of this 98 I have found 49 that conform to > 200 000 shares.
Please see attached Excel file for the list and highlights (as per my understanding, if its wrong I feel the wrath of Jack shall be released)
Regardless of what you and I have resulted with, and as you and I have resulted in 2 different things, all the more shows the lack of clear instruction. From reading and acting on his instructions, you and I should have the same results, just about, shouldn't we? There would be no "if it's wrong" question about it.
If I adopted your settings we would be on the same page. It would be that easy. Why can't Jack just demonstrate by giving the settings as a model example, as you just easily did?
You'll never stop flaming, will you? Man, you're so stubborn. I actually saved that reply to you from yesterday. Great, so I can just post it for clarification (and demonstration of you lying again). You're just so lucky that inandlong keeps removing all your flames constantly, otherwise we'd have some nice references to your foul-speak.
Well, here it is:
No, my friend, now you're trying to talk yourself out of the situation. You're just being recognized as a little joke around here.
What a bunch of crap the entire reply! Nothing but the struggle of a spider caught in a web! Besides, I never suggested I'm "BIG", unlike you, who can't help big-noting yourself on every thread.
1) On "Innus Longus". Yes, you're dyslexic and making attacks on others based on it shows your immaturity. The fact that you now admit that you actually really went to a library to look this up makes me ROFL! You still didn't get the analogy of "Bigus Dickus" from Python. It's common education, man! If you want to talk Latin, we can. I had it compulsory at a German elite school, and I still use Latin Proverbs, Locutions etc.
2) On Nationalities: Nononsense, there are Australians here who are appalled at your discriminating "BIG Aussie" talk. You better cut it, bro. Regarding "You're not Australian as you told us..." - Bullshit again. I was born here, I have a local passport and 95% of my family are Australian and have been here for as long as new Australia exists. I went to Europe for education only. You better don't make claims on stuff you don't know, or misquote me as you constantly do!
3) Regarding my home etc, I never claimed that I'm rich or that I own it, but I'm leasing it all by myself. Nothing is BS about my "shack". It's nice, it's spacy, it's got a river past the back, and a beautiful beach on the front. It's got enough space for a couple of offices and all my gear. You're very welcome to visit me here whenever you're over here and check it out. If you were a nice guy, I'd even let you take a guest room.
4) Regarding "foul talk" and me not being what I'm saying I am - Ever considered I might actually be even more than I'm saying? You might be surprised. I'm not telling ppl here everything. Regarding my credibility as an artist, again you can come over here and ask people in the art business even in the capital city 300km away about me. They know me, they've met me, they've seen my posters, some stock my designs. Stop ridiculing me. You're a loser and it doesn't pull, buddy. I bet you have not a single achievement in your life yet. Try it on if you like, but you're running into granite here. I'm squeaky-clean because I'm honest.
5) My ~Scientist or ~The Scientist signature : You're not getting over it, are you Mr Kindergarten? I post either signature whenever I like, I don't think anything about it, and nobody has EVER even mentioned it in any negative light. You're such a deroe. Yeah, that's Australian for one of the guys who walk around on the street at night with their loud mates, emptying and throwing about bottles. You seem like one of them. Put that Vodka away, bro.
6) Regarding your friendly "advice on posting" : LMAO!
And that from you, the master flamer???
And by the way - You started using these smilies after I posted one. You're unoriginal, and you're overdoing it, badly!
Regarding "often reply by asking for links" - LOL! I asked for a link ONCE in my whole time at ET, and that was in this thread! LOL what a joke you are I see right through your BS!
Regarding "trying to stay out of the nitty gritty stuff". Well, this is again nonsense. "Nitty gritty" is where you'll find me. See "Scalping" or "Mental Ceilings" threads. You stay far away from anything like that, bro.
LOL You're such a joke man! Accusing me of everything I never said, turning around my quotes, picking up on nonsense and exxagerating everything I say, plus counter-posting to try to wiggle yourself out of your own crap like a little maggot! Got you by the balls, bro!
I wanna see you pull this through, buddy. Because when it comes down to it, you'll just stand there as the complete fool. Everything I said is true, so I have nothing to fear - LOL. You, in turn, better have a good memory, because liars need it!
Yours Faithfully,
~THE Scientist
I ran on my old settings and got 87. I adjusted it to as tight as I go and got 34.
To get 110 which I am going to use. I am set at 80, 80 for EPS and RS. the other hing I did which is not what I asked people to do, is that I set the minimum price to 15 dollars.
At 10 dollars the list grows longer.
There are many pages since my last post. I appreciate thework people are doing.
I cut three cut file folders in half and then trim a little to get weekly divisions for the binder in which we will keep the daily analysis.
Put the stocktables print out in there first for the upcoming week. The binder fills chronologically.
I apologize for some remarks yesterday; I had rational expectations at the time for getting off the ground smoothly. The people working here are doing a good job.
We now have our data cut off as Friday 22AUG03. Lots of time to settle in.
Here are some good comments on the collateral information that you have on the list.
I find the Industry column is a leading indicator for sector analysis. you will see several sectors represented and most of the 197 sectors of IBD missing. you now know how fast you can set up stocktables.com, so you can fool around a little. If you go to a very high set for EPS and RS, you see that the sectors tighen as well. What you read there is what is waking up the econometrics of our economy and the global economy also.
Our base list of 100 will grow to about 200 over time because we will have some "keepers" that we will not delete. A second component are the stocks we trade. They will go into a previously held list in clearstation and we will "bulk" them as well every evening. These additional stocks, keepers and previously held, become out tenured stocks.
In trading and investing, we need to be sure we do not get married to stocks. We need to remain aloof and critical. Our purpose is to make money.
Getting the lists to start in not perfect right off. The situation "ramps up". You will see a very good set of stocks. We get to excellent soon.
We will begin to constrain our stocks to better standards as determined by our money velocity. HOV ran at 100% a month for 4 months. You can see this makes it hard to get a divorce. because we will have a xover strategy for sequencing out of stocks, it is like having a situation where to change into a new stock you have to have something better. If there is a better stock cycling than a stock doing 100% a month, you will have it there. what turns out to be the case is that HOV was doing spurts of 6 to 8 days and they were well over the 20%. So the 100% is just a net figure from a performance whose "natural cycles" were much more impressive.
This leads us to the combination of how analysis, monitoring, decision making and taking actions work. This is the personal "efficiency" aspect that connects to the "market efficiency" to deliver the best potential of the market under least risk conditions.
The list you now have is the market delivering to you from 16,000 stocks a universe that has to meet the standard of 20% cycles and 5 of them in six months. This is the minimum.
This list is a neutral biased list. You see two types of BO's at the top. Long and short. The long (27) to short (8) ratio favors short trading to max money velocity. I am not going to start with short trading. This is just a notification to experts here so they have the info and can use it.
People here like to choose between right and rich; they also classify themselves as beginners, intermediates and experts. because I do custom architecture and write for the AIA, I run into carpentrs. The custom is to pay for experience. 20 years experience as a carpenter means one of two things: repeating the year 19 times or learning each of the 20 years to be consumate in carpentry. Why is trend fader a 9 year beginner? Why is Mr Market a repeat beginner? They are just stuck in the growth process. They explore in their respective wildernesses keep very safe in survival using mechanisms that keep them alive.
If I asked nonsense or trendy tdraw a picture of a house, what do I learn from them? I learn when and why they stopped growing artistically. If a person calls an ET activity whatever, we see three aspects of this: the situation, the conditions, and the circumstances. This triade is defining for the person looking into the ET activity. This activity is called "making money". People grow as they experience activities. How they qualify and express their relation to this activity is where they are and where they are coming from.
The cyber character of our electronic forum allows us to extinguish others. If and when you do that you are orienting to your growth objectives and clearing away the s. c. and c.(situation, conditions and circumstances) that are trivial. The absolute exquisiteness of the synergism of "work for common purposes" cannot be duplicated elsewhere, easily. We leave out al of the non essential stuff and keep our focus and pace on the work.
This list is vey important. It was not possible in 1957 to get it this way. electronics work for us powerfully. Our helpers "grow" us. thee is no need to not have all that is possible working for you. this activity is an enabling process.
I am fending off creativity here for the moment. I want a foundation and a personal capability to be present first. You all will do better than me over time. This is because of your lack of experience and how you are contemporarily equipped. You did not have ink wells and have to clean nibs. We left handers did and the alphabet is right handed. scratch scratch.
learn what is on the list and now you can pull it in a minute.
I am going to wait a little until the three lists show up and we have some commonality. It is cool that the lists will vary.
I'm at RS 80 and EPS 80
dollar min is 15, i have max dollar at 50. All is everywhere else.
110 stocks on a three pager portrait
I think landscape is better, I just didn't do it.
On clearstation we make calls. I will name this discretionary. I request that you fill in assessment sheets more often than not. It is to get quick in doing it. if you printa batch and do the averages manuqally you get sharper faster than typing data in. this sheet was put on excel as a helper outer in the past.
Though it appears you are correct, this from Jack's posts:
"EPS levels are set by various users. I set the level by how long it makes my universe list. .. I use IBD's RS. " [note there is no instruction to then to lower the RS value, as he gave with the EPS meant to me to keep the RS high and fiddle with the EPS settings].
But this only underscores my point about lack of clarity. There's even a few more posts added above where the posters are still not themselves clear about how to form the basic list at this point, 18 pages deep into the thread. Wait until we get into how to do 5 cycles per 6 months that do 20%, if you think everything is understandable up to this point. Heck, for all I know, the cycle thing has already been discussed.
Why can't there just be one model posted this time to set things straight for all?
"EPS levels are set by various users. I set the level by how long it makes my universe list. .. I use IBD's RS. " [note there is no instruction to then to lower the RS value, as he gave with the EPS meant to me to keep the RS high and fiddle with the EPS settings].
But this only underscores my point about lack of clarity. There's even a few more posts added above where the posters are still not themselves clear about how to form the basic list at this point, 18 pages deep into the thread. Wait until we get into how to do 5 cycles per 6 months that do 20%, if you think everything is understandable up to this point. Heck, for all I know, the cycle thing has already been discussed.
Why can't there just be one model posted this time to set things straight for all?
1. Stocks at the top of the volume % change.
NWRE, DKS, ELBO, AUO, MRVL, SINT, SSYS, MRGE, GLDN, ECLG,
2. Stocks at the bottom.
LGTO, LAVA, ENDP, AVID, AMTD, PSUN, CBR, GPRO, HELE, ERES
3. Still not sure where this comes from.
NWRE, DKS, ELBO, AUO, MRVL, SINT, SSYS, MRGE, GLDN, ECLG,
2. Stocks at the bottom.
LGTO, LAVA, ENDP, AVID, AMTD, PSUN, CBR, GPRO, HELE, ERES
3. Still not sure where this comes from.
Jack posted: "To get 110 which I am going to use. I am set at 80, 80 for EPS and RS. the other thing I did which is not what I asked people to do, is that I set the minimum price to 15 dollars."
Here we go again. Same settings, I get a base of 124. Fine. Whittle it down by deleting sub 200,000 volumes, I net 60, not 110.
One of these things is not like the other.
Here we go again. Same settings, I get a base of 124. Fine. Whittle it down by deleting sub 200,000 volumes, I net 60, not 110.
One of these things is not like the other.
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