Heat goes on: Earth headed for warmest year on record

[jem]

while I have no idea what they are blaming for warming, I suspect they need to incorporate longer term temperature charts... of ice..

Which brings up 2 questions...
1.should we be concerned temps are so low and co2 is so low?
2. could there be an issue with grafting current instrument temps onto proxy data?

 

[futurecurrents]

while I have no idea what they are blaming for warming, I suspect they need to incorporate longer term temperature charts... of ice..

Which brings up 2 questions...
1.should we be concerned temps are so low and co2 is so low?
2. could there be an issue with grafting current instrument temps onto proxy data?

I totally believe that you have no idea. It's the first true thing you have said.

 

[gwb-trading]

Beside the fact that the purpose of testing the hypothesis is above your reasoning power, you're attacking the messenger. A typical rightie tactic.

As usual you are missing the entire intent of the post - the Norwegian government funding of this expedition has nothing to do with "climate change", it is all about claiming ownership of land and natural resources in the Arctic. Norway will gladly welcome a warming Arctic with thinner ice that allows them easier access to those resources.

 

[jem]

oh my fraudcurrents chooses to cherry pick data... and leaves out tons of proxy data showing the middle age warm periods. You know its when there were vineyards in London.

Why not show the data going back to the ice age or longer? because that data doesn't help your baloney?



And yes... those proxies showing warming are from papers more recent than your corrupted hockey stick chart... which hides the decline in the tree ring data by grafting instrument data onto tree ring data...

how come you don't show the tree ring data..
oh thats right you morons claim the trees are now broken.... isn't that nice.

I totally believe that you have no idea. It's the first true thing you have said.

 

[Ricter]

As usual you are missing the entire intent of the post - the Norwegian government funding of this expedition has nothing to do with "climate change", it is all about claiming ownership of land and natural resources in the Arctic. Norway will gladly welcome a warming Arctic with thinner ice that allows them easier access to those resources.

Just back from a workout and, wow, I really went on the attack there.

Anyway, if there's no warming, Norway gets squat, so they're wasting their money.

Unless... there is warming.

 

[gwb-trading]

Just back from a workout and, wow, I really went on the attack there.

Anyway, if there's no warming, Norway gets squat, so they're wasting their money.

Unless... there is warming.

Currently the Arctic is warming. The Antarctic is not warming. This phenomena goes in cycles. Maybe the Canadians will get their dreamed of "Northern Passage".

 

[futurecurrents]

oh my fraudcurrents chooses to cherry pick data... and leaves out tons of proxy data showing the middle age warm periods. You know its when there were vineyards in London.

Why not show the data going back to the ice age or longer? because that data doesn't help your baloney?



And yes... those proxies showing warming are from papers more recent than your corrupted hockey stick chart... which hides the decline in the tree ring data by grafting instrument data onto tree ring data...

how come you don't show the tree ring data..
oh thats right you morons claim the trees are now broken.... isn't that nice.

 

[futurecurrents]

"A small handful of European mice deposited on the island of Madeira some 600 years ago have now evolved into at least six different species. The island is very rocky and the mice became isolated into different niches. The original species had 40 chromosomes, but the new populations have anywhere between 22-30 chromosomes. They haven't lost DNA, but rather, some chromosomes have fused together over time and so the mice can now only breed with others with the same number of chromosomes, making each group a separate species."

Georges suggests climate change will be another powerful driver of speciation in the future.

"The characteristics of a particular species are normally quite stable developmentally, even if environmental conditions fluctuate. But if you push the environment beyond normal variability, you release what is termed 'cryptic' genetic variation — switching on previously inactive genes and accumulated genetic variation that is normally hidden, providing fodder for rapid evolution.

A remarkable example is the London Underground mosquito. It is believed to have evolved from an above-ground species which moved into tunnels being excavated to construct the London underground rail system in the 1850s. Today the underground mosquito's aggressive bite gives commuters hell, while the above-ground species only feeds off birds. The two species can no longer interbreed and have become separate in just 150 years.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2010/03/10/2820949.htm

 

[jem]

Here is a far more responsible chart from more recent papers...
Note.. almost all the proxies we have are from the northern hemisphere.

and temperatures have not exceeded that 1998 high... they have tied it.

 

[jem]