Health Care Reform...Sound off here, An ET Roundtable.

Helath Care Reform

  • Leave it alone, things are fine.

    Votes: 6 10.3%

  • Pass current reform bill.

    Votes: 12 20.7%

  • We need reform, but write a new bill.

    Votes: 36 62.1%

  • Who cares, I pay cash when I'm sick.

    Votes: 4 6.9%
  • Total voters
    58
this national "health care bill" is just one more POS coming out of Washington 2700 pages not one of those SOBs have read it. Just another power grab by Dictator OBAMA. Soon we will have to barrowing to pay the interest on the debt, soons like more taxes on everyone.
 
The backroom deals with the special interests, the favoritism played with demo constituents, the budgetary gimmicks and outright fictions, man this is soooo 'high minded' legislation :eek:

business as usual folks, see you in hell.

Take Stupak. The promise of his desire by executive order. Is he so stupid that he doesn't realize that the order will be rescinded as fast as it is issued? Give me a break. I wonder what really happened.
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gawd is he stupid, bob stupid, man did he got punked
 
Quote from hermit:

Yes, like every other country with Universal Health Care. If that was indeed the case then there are hardly any countries left in the world without such control mechanism.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/countries/

And you didn't answer why the measures you proposed never got any traction. :confused:
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I did answer the question.....common sense and very obvious solutions ARE NOT a part of the overall agenda, so that is why they will never get any traction.
 
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gawd is he stupid, bob stupid, man did he got punked
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I doubt it. I'm sure Stupak knows the score. The One or Pelosi or who knows whom obtained some leverage. Dirty pictures, promise of supporting others during the primary, promises and threats on future legislation, there is an endless list of arms to twist to make this happen. Perhaps a combination of things - why choose between a carrot and a stick if you can use them both?

Regardless, we'll never know. But you can be sure there was whispering behind closed doors that led to that.
 
Why didn't some of the "yes" voters say they would be a "no".. simply because it was not a bi-partisan bill, it was crafted behind closed doors, and the public was against the bill (by what, 3:1)?

If the elected representatives were actually representing their voters, there should have been enough "no" votes to prevent passage.

And.. all of this Executive Order business... waaaayyyy too much power in the hands of one man. Works to defeat the intended "checks and balances" objectives of our government structure.

Hopefully, hosed voters will remember all of this come November. Personally, I'd like to see every "yes" voter defeated soundly.
 
promises: bring down cost
increase access


reality: budgeted at just under one trillion $

to be paid for by $400+ billion new taxes

and $500+ billion health care provider cuts


result: raises cost of health care and lessens access
 
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