"He Never Went In": Officer On Duty Filmed "Doing Nothing" During Florida Shooting

Republicans are in fantasy land thinking teachers with a few hours of range time and a compact firearm is going to engage a shooter with an AR-15.Many cops aren't likely to do it until they have back up
Republicans are not in fantasy land though in thinking that teachers without any firearms will not be able to defend themselves. You are an extremely misguided individual taking your cues from your leaders.
 
You're actually mistaken. I was surprised to see how many school shootings there were in all those countries where gun control is very strict and even death penalty is applied. China is a surprising example for the great number of shootings and even Japan, who for so many is the "poster land" for gun control, had 1. It's interesting to organize the list by country to get a more visual sense. To me, logic is enough to realize that gun control is worthless and solves nothing, but this adds to the proof of it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll

The fact that people who are willing to break the law by killing will have no problem breaking the law by illegaly buying a gun and will stop at nothing until they get that gun should be sufficient that making laws will not solve the problem.
In addition, taking away guns from people who fight for the right to carry them legally is pretty stupid, because if they are concerned about not being able to carry it legally, that means they would respect this minor law by not carrying, which means they obviously respect a much more important law: not to kill.

So, in the end, they will loose their right to defend themselves, which is their CONSTITUTIONAL right.
And the ones who are willing to break the law in it's worse form(murder) will do it anyway, since someone who is willing to murder has absolutely NO RESPECT FOR ANY LAW WHATSOEVER.

So, you’re looking at the world total of school massacres. The dates range back to like 1975 or so and besides America, there are very few countries with multiple shootings because they took sensible action.

If you’re on you phone visit the page, go to the list, focus on the country column and swipe up. You’ll notice as the flags are scrolling by there’s so many American school shootings.
 
There have been firearms in this country since it's inception and over time, gun laws have only gotten stricter, yet violent acts like this have sprung up and increased. ---Guns are not the issue--- Society is the issue---specifically the move away from traditional values into a more secular society. ---Since we can't put the values issues back in the bottle right away, there is only one answer right now and that is protection. All schools and other public places need to learn how to defend themselves. There needs to be on-site, well trained security personnel with GUNS that are not afraid to use them if necessary. Perpetrators love "gun free " zones where they are the only ones carrying weapons. We need to put an end to their comfort zones.
 
Folks don't like to hear it, but the biggest issue in this country is the decline of the two parent family. Children are growing up without a male role model. Why is this happening? It is due to the government rewarding people for creating single parent households. Males don't act responsibly because they know govt will subsidize their carelessness. Males are free to roam and spread their seed wherever they feel like because it's ok in today's world. ---Balance the budget and cut way back on "welfare" and you will begin to see things turn around.
 
So, you’re looking at the world total of school massacres. The dates range back to like 1975 or so and besides America, there are very few countries with multiple shootings because they took sensible action.

If you’re on you phone visit the page, go to the list, focus on the country column and swipe up. You’ll notice as the flags are scrolling by there’s so many American school shootings.

Nearly all the countries on the list appear multiple times including (but not limited to) - China, Germany, Canada, Russia, Israel, Brazil, Finland, etc.)
 
I do think there are some measures that should be done, as discussed in the gun control thread. However, I do agree with sentiment of this article.

Every Single Government Authority Failed In Parkland. And They Expect Americans To Forfeit Our Self-Defense Rights To Them?

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ByBEN SHAPIRO
@benshapiro
February 23, 2018


On Thursday night, the American public learned two bombshell pieces of information regarding the Parkland, Florida mass shooting. First, we learnedthat the Broward County Sheriff’s Office was told in November that the Parkland shooter “could be a school shooter in the making” but deputies didn’t bother to write up a report; that report “came just weeks after a relative called urging BSO to seize his weapons.” Then, in even more shocking news, we learned that an armed school resource officer at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School sat outside and waited for four minutesduring the six minute attack that ended in the deaths of 17 human beings.

So, here’s what we know.

We know the FBI was warned specifically about the Parkland shooter not once, but twice – and did nothing.

We know the Broward County Sheriff’s deputies were called to the home of the Parkland shooter at least 39 times since 2010.

We know that the Broward County Sheriff’s Office was warned multiple times about the Parkland shooter.

We know that an armed officer was present during the shooting and did nothing – and that JROTC students showed far more courage.

And yet we are told that the solution to mass shootings is for law-abiding citizens to give more authority to the authorities that failed, and to turn over our only way of protecting ourselves?

Why in the world would a single law-abiding gun owner hand over his or her weapon to the same authorities that did nothing to protect the children of Parkland? Why would a single law-abiding gun owner turn over his or her capacity for self-defense to people who were incapable of defending children at every step of the way?

And why in the world should we blame the NRA, which literally had nothing to do with Parkland, for the failures of every institutional barrier to a massacre? Why should we blame law-abiding gun owners who didn’t shoot up kids for the failures of those who are paid to do stop evil monsters like the Parkland shooter? Why should we take Sheriff Steve Israel seriously when he blames lack of gun control, Dana Loesch, and the NRA, rather than his own radical incompetence and the radical incompetence of those under his authority?

Children are dead not because millions of good citizens own AR-15s, but because dozens of pathetic incompetents and cowards in a position to do somethinginstead did nothing. All the misdirection in the world isn’t going to change that inconvenient fact.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27491/every-single-government-authority-failed-parkland-ben-shapiro
 
No fantasy whatsoever. You assume that a teacher is going out on an offensive operation. In fact, many schools train the teachers to shelter in place, secure their classroom, lock the door, put get behind desks whatsoever. They are not necessarily going out on the offense. Then the shooter fucker comes along and tries to enter or shoot into the classroom.

Do you think it is fantasy to think that if the teacher had a weapon and started shooting in a defensive manner as the shooter tried to entere the classroom or fire in it would not be a deterrent? Get a grip.

Also, your type keeps referring to "teachers with a few hours of training" type of dismissive type of comments. A massive number of people outside of pussyville already know how to shoot quite well. No teacher should be required or pressured to participate, but teachers of good character and good skill who are in the school and wish to participate should be welcomed.

And to your absurd point about the AR-15. Do I think a teacher with a 9mm "is going to engage a shooter with AR 15" trying to enter the classroom? ahhhhh, duhh. yes I think maybe. What is the alternative? Just bend over and kiss your arse goodbye as we see so often?

Sheltering in place doesn’t jibe with arming 20% of teachers. That means only approximately 20% of students would be in the middle of a shoot out. The rest of them are still sitting ducks.

The only real way to do this is to stop the shooter outside of the building. You need armed security with at least ARs who have tactical military training. This is close quarters combat, a la Falluja (sp), we are talking about.

These shooters are coming in with a plan and prepared for many scenarios. A shaky algebra teacher huddled in a corner with a pistol isn’t that much of a deterrent.
 
Close quarters combat is the most dangerous type of fire fight you can get into.


And Trump and republicans want to put school children in the middle of a CQB firefight with nervous as shit teachers with no actual combat experience and a lunatic with an AR-15 on a rampage,what could go wrong there:cool:
 
And Trump and republicans want to put school children in the middle of a CQB firefight with nervous as shit teachers with no actual combat experience and a lunatic with an AR-15 on a rampage,what could go wrong there:cool:
Dear Misguided, They are already in the middle of a firefight.
 
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