Hatred of the NYSE

Quote from B1010:

Initially I agreed with this statement. However after reading more about how the LRP's within the hybrid work and watching the hybrids trade I no longer agree. The problem is that once a stock hits the LRP the specialist can just freeze the stock and lock everyone out. These LRP's are rediculous on most stocks.. 5, 10, 20 cents..(I believe each LRP is recalculated every 30 seconds). At the very least these LRP's should be much higher. Basically at this point anytime a stock is going to make a good move the specialist still has free reign. I guess were all gonna have to live with it.. Heres a list of the LRP's I'm talking about.....

http://www.nyse.com/pdfs/activated_lrps.pdf

What actually happens at the LRP? Is trading halted? Or can trades still take place at the LRP price?
 
Quote from HoundDogOne:

Type "NYSE" and "Specialist" and "criminal" into Google...
And you get 249,000 hits.

Like this one at random:

http://legalsoapbox.freeadvice.com/...cialists_plead_guilty_to_securities_fraud.htm

But it's always a big "shock" to the NYSE shills...
And, of course, it could never happen.

It never fails to amaze me...
The degree to which intelligent people...
Just totally swallow every single deception the Securities Industry dreams up.

To explain how the NYSE can trump Federal law at will...
I will just give you ONE example.

"Backing away" means posting a bid/ask...
But when someone hits your bid/ask...
You pull it... drop it by 1-2 cents... and no fill.

"Backing away" is illegal under Federal llaw... the 1934 Securities Exchange Act...
Because it is the most blatant form of Market Manipulation.

Do you people know how the NYSE polices "backing away"?
They look at monthly statistics for all the firms...
And calculate the ** percentage of the time ** each firm "backs away" from a live bid/ask.
If this percentage is below a certain threshhold... like 2-3%... than that firm is "in compliance".

NO. NO. NO. Every single instance is illegal.

But what this really means...
Is that on any individual order from any specific firm or trader...
The Specialist has the option of breaking the law...
As long as he only breaks the law only 2-3% of the time.


Speaking of backing away, look at this.

http://www.thememoryhole.org/corp/finance/sec_amex_report.htm

Option specialists have *hundreds of thousands* of securities violations. There is a complaint, regarding these option specialists, that's been in court for a few years, and it's mostly "flown under the radar." It's called Last Atlantis Capital v. Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE). Option specialists identified certain public customers on the floor order-processing machinery (as if that's necessary - the BOX options exchange is fully anonymous), and have deliberately mishandled their orders - which only attempt to transact with the specialist's disseminated price! (See the "Memory Hole" link).

Your link, given above, is appreciated, now that specialists are eligible for criminal prosecutions. All those with knowledge of the Last Atlantis v. CBOE events are eligible for jail time. Prosecutors are getting tougher on specialist violations. They are in a position where they are trusted to lawfully complete their duties. The NYSE specialists were eligible for 20 years in prison - but they pleaded it all the way down to about 4 years in jail.
 
Quote from JMartinez:

Doubt it. Once the new dawn of "Reg NMS" comes out. LRP's will be useless. Play ball or get run over by the big boys!!!!!! LOL .

:D :D :D :D

The point of the Hybrid was to hold off Reg NMS. So the NYSE scum have succeeded in that sense, they bought themselves a couple more years.
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

The point of the Hybrid was to hold off Reg NMS. So the NYSE scum have succeeded in that sense, they bought themselves a couple more years.
They seem like the bastards are trying extra hard to get in their last licks before it goes all electronic.
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

The point of the Hybrid was to hold off Reg NMS. So the NYSE scum have succeeded in that sense, they bought themselves a couple more years.

Reg NMS is arriving regardless of what NYSE calls their market. "When electronic play ball, when non-electronic let the big boy's play!"

In a simple sense it is what will happen when Reg NMS comes out and NYSE goes manual. If their thumb is up their *ss, people will and can trade through them. Most likely it will be computers/algos trading through them.

Hybrid is a pretty good method from NYSE to do something that nasdaq/ECN's are lacking now. Creating liquidity and posting liquidity vs. posting liquidity only.
 
Quote from JMartinez:


Hybrid is a pretty good method from NYSE to do something that nasdaq/ECN's are lacking now. Creating liquidity and posting liquidity vs. posting liquidity only.

This does not make much sense to me.

The Specialists feed off the most liquid stocks...
Exactly the ones where there is only ONE reason on earth to "create liquidity"...
And that is to SKIM MONEY via their elaborate Rackets.

If the field is really level...
And the NYSE cannot find a way to ** circumvent the intent ** of Reg NMS...
Then the entire concept of a "liquidity center" disappears...
And the entire market universe becomes One Big Liquidity Center.

This is a Quant's Wet Dream.

Thinly veiled skimming operations disguised as "services" provided by the NYSE racketeers...
Should l not reverse the flow of market share away from the "Big Board".

But I must be wrong...
Because based on NYX vs NDAQ stock action...
Over last 3 months NYX up 80% versus NDAQ up 40%...
So smart money on both as a de facto DUOPOLY...
But smart money also says NYSE will easily game the system...
Like taking candy from a little baby.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=3m&s=NYX&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=ndaq
 
Quote from jimrockford:

Nicely phrased.

The only thing is they are the only ones with balls big enough to skim it. No other players have figured it out. Therebye pricing off the primary market. That is the reason that NYSE has a bigger advantage over Nasdaq/ECN/Regionals.
 
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