bro, it's Iraq "changing objectives" all over again, "hamas has to go" is just the latest talking point. I know it may sound reasonable, after all, who would object to such verbatim phrase? But it's just coded language like "it's ok to be white" or "blue lives matter". It may sound kooky I know, but when you're seeing it all over the place in tandem by the talking heads, you know what's up.
Do pray tell how do you stop the next JAMAS, MAMAS, or TOMAS from being the next "it" terrorist cell when they've killed 15k? You think those people are now cool with Israel?
Now let me throw it back at you, why is the pro-Israel crowd so against a cease fire? Why does stopping the bombardment of civilians make one pro-Hamas? Do you think there hasn't been a spike in Islamophobia?
No i believe Israeli objectives, at least stated objectives, have remained remarkably stable since the beginning of their defense. It took two days just to get the terrorists out of Israeli territory. Now that the terrorists have been pushed back inside their own territory, the objective is the same: Hamas must go.
Hamas would be gone now, if they a) had no hostages b) fought above ground c) did not use human shields.
But they do use human shields, both their own people, and Israelis (the hostages).
I've yet to hear a good alternative suggestion, from anyone calling for a ceasefire, as to how Hamas can be eradicated, without fighting them through, around, over and under their human shields. Not just human shields, structural shields like hospitals, clinics, mosques and schools.
Do you think for one minute that just because Hamas was pushed back into their territory that they will stop a) attacking now b) planning attacks for the future c) attacking in the future?
No. So, since they have hostages, they have increased the urgency that Israel arrest them now...not in the future, after hostages have been held for some years, if not sold for a very very high price. Were you thinking that the price should be the release of every single Jihadi being held in Israeli prisons? Were you thinking that, plus the evacuation of the Israeli nation, and relocation of all Jews to Europe or New York?
So, your exaggerations about the body count can't stop what must happen, now. You do not know how many Gazan civilians have been killed. You don't know how many terrorists have been killed. The terrorists don't even know how many terrorists have been killed since there are no numbers on that coming from them. So how do they know how many civilians have been killed? They don't know, so neither do you. So you don't know how many children in Gaza have been killed. You don't know how many parents kept their children in the north, refusing to take them to safer zones in the south. You also don't know how many civilians were, taking up arms to help Hamas, as sympathizers, because the Gazan are largely fighting without uniforms. You also don't know how many sympathizers just wanted to defy Israels recommendation to go south. You don't know how many civilians were compelled to stay in the north, even at Hamas gunpoint. Indeed, some were gunned down trying to exit. You don't know how many civilians are Hamas loyalists, remaining in the danger zones. You really don't know anything except talking points.
Your numbers have only one purpose, to incite hatred and emotional response all over the world, perhaps to pressure the US to force a cease fire, or make demands about time limits. All of your rhetoric serves to save Hamas. You don't even realize what saving Hamas means, not only for the peoples of Israel, but also the peoples of Gaza, who have been so repressed by the Hamas regime, that they dare not speak out.
There were already the next "it" terrorist groups in Gaza, lined up behind Hamas, with different names, ready to step up, before Oct 7. One of them is called "Islamic Jihad"! I mean, how much clearer can it be?! This proves that it doesn't take a ground invasion for Gazans to incite themselves into terrorist groups, with different names, all ready to continue the global Jihad started several centuries ago. If you think that a ground invasion will just multiply their number, then you are really just calling Gazans stupid. I really don't think Gazans are so stupid they can't see Hamas' role, even their ideology, in their quality of life. If you are afraid of what people will think about the quality or quantity of Israeli self-defense, then you are actually responding accordingly, as terrorists wish you to respond...with fear...of what people will think...especially of what Muslims will think. Not all Muslims are as stupid as you think, or as stupid as Hamas thinks.
If you are afraid of what Muslims might think, maybe it is you who have Islamophobia: the fear of what Muslims might think, and how they might respond, to self-defense actions taken by peoples that Muslims attack.
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