ha ha ha Obama's lead falls a staggering 2 points

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

C'mon man. You're an "educator". Act like one. No need for a fallacious pick and choose sample. Show us every poll in every primary state and THEN compute if there was indeed a "Bradley effect." I could just as easily find a handful of polls with Obama under performing but my sample would be as ridiculously biased as yours.....

Obama under performed mostly in states that are not in contention, like CA, NY, and TX. I picked the states that are in contention now. Even if there is a Bradley effect in TX, it won't affect the outcome of the election.

I'm not under any obligation to "compute" if there is a Bradley effect. If you feel that there should be one, you can prove it to us. My only point is, that for the states that matter in this election, there is no indication that the Bradley effect will be in play.
 
Then post ALL the polls in those states. I'm not the one making a contention one way or the other. You are. Then make your case compelling or it's no argument at all.....
Quote from james_bond_3rd:

Obama under performed mostly in states that are not in contention, like CA, NY, and TX. I picked the states that are in contention now. Even if there is a Bradley effect in TX, it won't affect the outcome of the election.

I'm not under any obligation to "compute" if there is a Bradley effect. If you feel that there should be one, you can prove it to us. My only point is, that for the states that matter in this election, there is no indication that the Bradley effect will be in play.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Then post ALL the polls in those states. I'm not the one making a contention one way or the other. You are. Then make your case compelling or it's no argument at all.....

You're acting irrationally (although I don't know if you ever acted rationally). I picked the polls closest to the election date that I could find. Given the dynamic nature of the primary, there were large variations of the polls over time. It's ridiculous to average them.

I can wager a bet that if we indeed average over ALL polls going all the way back to last year, we can show a huge bias in favor of Clinton (remember she was "inevitable").
 
Quote from james_bond_3rd:

Even though it seems cruel to take away the last straw you're clinging onto, here are some actual numbers:

Virginia:
Poll (Insider Advantage 2/8): Obama 52% Clinton 37%
Actual vote: Obama 64% Clinton 36%
Poll error: Clinton +13

West Virginia:
Poll (Suffolk University 5/11): Clinton 60% Obama 24%
Actual vote: Clinton 67% Obama 26%
Poll error: Obama +5

North Carolina:
Poll (Rasmussen 5/2): Obama 49% Clinton 40%
Actual vote: Obama 56% Clinton 42%
Poll error: Clinton +5

Indiana:
Poll (SUSA 4/28): Clinton 52% Obama 43%
Actual vote: Clinton 51% Obama 49%
Poll error: Clinton +7

It seems that there were large errors in the polls in favor of Clinton in many states. There is no obvious Bradley effect. I don't have the time to pull the numbers for all the primary states or average over all the polls. The polls I used above are all reputable ones.

Republicans can continue to believe Ann Coulter but other than spewing hatred, she never understands

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As has been stated, these are selective polls, but what really interested me was your reference to Ann Coulter. I'm pleased that you read her columns, it shows real growth, but the last article she wrote had nothing whatsoever to do with trying to prove that there is a Bradley effect. That is a figment of your imagination, as is so much else of what you write. What she showed, and you have done NOTHING to disprove it, is that national polls have historically been consistently skewed toward democrats in national elections.
 
I don't talk to low IQ idiots. Ann Coulter reference was conversation to Yanni who cut and pasted an article of hers (probably in violation of her copyright).
 
Quote from sho-tim:

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Half the population will enter into successive, abusive and controlling relationships.

First is the emotional bonding, hearing stuff that is pleasing to them, like showing a small kindness such as 0bama's promised tax cuts for the middle class.

Then comes the abuse, the intimidation and threats, such as everyone will die if the tax increases on the middle class are not passed.

Finally, as a survival mechanism, they begin to see the world from the abuser's perspective.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

You better rethink your criticism of the electoral college. What if in a future, four candidate election the "Mexican-Black-Steal From Whitey Party" received EVERY black/brown vote and wound up with a "majority" of popular votes (example 30-25-25-20) without winning but a couple of states. Or if a secessionist candidate from California got all the votes from Cali but 6 other parties split the vote in the other 49 states? The Founding Fathers were well aware of the possibilities....

Still prefer a popular vote win, and your thinking is not why founding fathers did it.

As it is now, and has been for quite some time, the campaigning is concentrated in just a few states, and many are ignored altogether. Hell, Cal, the largest state by far is largely ignored cause its going to go Dem no matter what.
 
Quote from TGregg:

No wonder the libs hate Joe the Plumber so much. I mean, besides he is not on a government handout program.

You'd think he was a VP pick or something. :D

Not only is he not a licensed plumber, but he OWES $1200 IN BACK TAXES.

But leave it to McSame to once again highlight someone as a hardworking American taxpayer, when they obviously are not.

Funny how Joe The Plumber has been interviewed more times than Palin.

Hmmmmmmm....

Why is that?
:D
 
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