Gun control is about Urban vs Rural areas

[pspr]

Quote from Lucrum:

Oh yeah? How much food do they produce? According to who exactly?

ISAP reminds me of the Congressman you have in Georgia that was asking the General if he was concerned about an island tipping over if they put a military base on one side.

 

[IShopAtPublix]

Quote from Lucrum:

Oh yeah? How much food do they produce? According to who exactly?

According to me and anybody with a brain. You can't have a hodge podge piecemeal solution to guns. You can't have states where guns are sold like cigarette packs coexisting with states with good gun control.

When people trash big cities they don't understand the dynamics of crime. If you are going to set up a criminal network you won't set it up in a town of 1500 that nobody gives a damn about. You will naturally gravitate to big cities. I know big cities in the world that are complete hell holes because there are LOTS OF GUNS there and no law and order. If guns lowered crime Mogadishu would be a paradise instead of a hell hole.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

I put "BIG" modifier in front of "city" for a reason. You compare NYC to Chicago, LA, etc. not to a "city" of 250,000. NYC is head and shoulders above Chicago and LA, for one good reason - NYPD is mean and VERY good at what it does.

To solve the country's gun problem you do the following:

1)You can own a shotgun for your home protection ONLY provided you are not a felon, psycho, etc.
2)Concealed carry and open carry are banned
3)Hand guns are banned, assault rifles are banned

As to how you get the guns out of the system, you buy them back. You say "you have 3 months to either sell it for a good price or go to jail at the end of the period". Vast majority will sell them back, the ones that wont would be a lot easier to deal with later. Gun crime would collapse in Chicago and everywhere else.

Is there a full moon or something bringing these people out?

Who the fuck are you to decide what i can own?

These are the same fools who criticize republicans for wanting to stick their nose in the bedroom. All I see is liberals telling us what to do , what to eat, what to smoke, who to hire, who to lend money to, etc. Now they actually want to tell us how to defend our homes.

I'm on the far side of fed up. Let's get those secession petition sout again.

 

[377OHMS]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

According to me and anybody with a brain. You can't have a hodge podge piecemeal solution to guns. You can't have states where guns are sold like cigarette packs coexisting with states with good gun control.

When people trash big cities they don't understand the dynamics of crime. If you are going to set up a criminal network you won't set it up in a town of 1500 that nobody gives a damn about. You will naturally gravitate to big cities. I know big cities in the world that are complete hell holes because there are LOTS OF GUNS there and no law and order. If guns lowered crime Mogadishu would be a paradise instead of a hell hole.

Every home in Switzerland has a fully automatic military-grade assault rifle.

Chicago has a nearly complete ban of all firearms.

Which is safer?

 

[IShopAtPublix]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Is there a full moon or something bringing these people out?

Who the fuck are you to decide what i can own?

These are the same fools who criticize republicans for wanting to stick their nose in the bedroom. All I see is liberals telling us what to do , what to eat, what to smoke, who to hire, who to lend money to, etc. Now they actually want to tell us how to defend our homes.

I'm on the far side of fed up. Let's get those secession petition sout again.

umadbro? Your possession of a gun affects not only you but EVERYONE around you. The impact is immediate and direct. If I eat fat food or whether I had an abortion (If I were a female but I am not) does not affect you one bit.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

According to me and anybody with a brain. You can't have a hodge podge piecemeal solution to guns. You can't have states where guns are sold like cigarette packs coexisting with states with good gun control.

Define your idea of "good gun control" if you would.

When people trash big cities they don't understand the dynamics of crime.

By "trashing" you mean citing factual statistics?

If you are going to set up a criminal network you won't set it up in a town of 1500 that nobody gives a damn about. You will naturally gravitate to big cities.

You might want to mention that to many a small town sheriff that didn't get that memo. I was watching the Documentary channel just last night. They were airing a piece on the drug problems - in our small rural towns.

I know big cities in the world that are complete hell holes because there are LOTS OF GUNS there and no law and order.

And the proliferation of firearms is THE only reason they're hell holes?
Or is it because there is no law and order, as you said?

 

[pspr]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

umadbro? Your possession of a gun affects not only you but EVERYONE around you. The impact is immediate and direct. If I eat fat food or whether I had an abortion (If I were a female but I am not) does not affect you one bit.

My guns are in my bedroom and closet. They will only affect you if you try to break into my house. Then they will affect you greatly.

UPDATE: Oh, if you are a Pheasant roaming the plains they might effect you, too.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

umadbro? Your possession of a gun affects not only you but EVERYONE around you....

Did you mean me FIRING my weapon affects everyone around me?
Cause I'm pretty sure my owning it doesn't.

 

[wjk]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

Your possession of a gun affects not only you but EVERYONE around you.

Only if they try to commit a crime against me.

 

[IShopAtPublix]

Quote from 377OHMS:

Every home in Switzerland has a fully automatic military-grade assault rifle.

Chicago has a nearly complete ban of all firearms.

Which is safer?

Switzerland is a gem with an extremely high standard of living. Even there gun control is different than in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...l-and-switzerland-are-not-gun-toting-utopias/

This is what happens when kids start talking about things they don't know about.

Notice there is a passage about carry permits being issued to people working in security. The right to bear arms there is tied to military service, you can walk around with it if you are in the military but once you are out, it stays in your home.