Gun control is about Urban vs Rural areas

[IShopAtPublix]

Quote from Trader7793:

IshopatPublix, do you think that the government should just ignore constitutional rights and even supreme court rulings? Do you think that law abiding citizens should just allow such a government to violate the Bill of Rights and in fact allow their own tax dollars be used to take their most basic rights away from them?

In case you missed it, a federal appeals court just ruled that the state of Illinois must create a concealed carry system within 180 days as their current total ban is a violation of the second amendment. I am not sure if the US Supreme Court will uphold that law, but they have clearly ruled that a handgun ban is a violation of the 2nd Amendment.

To even attempt to ban currently owned semi-automatic rifles and especially handguns, the US govt would need to ignore the constitution and begin to arrest millions of Americans who would for sure violate the ban. Its not like as if there are 2000 or so people who own these weapons. There are millions upon millions of these weapons in the US. There is nowhere near enough police or jail space if even 10% of the population refused to follow the law and believe me the govt would be lucky to get 10% compliance.

I was watching a TV news show today and a reporter was explaining that not only are people buying the hell out of AR-15 variant rifles, but over 8000 people are joining the NRA everyday, more than even after Columbine and they have never experienced anything like that.

The US Constitution is showing its age. The fiscal cliff nonsense is a vivid illustration of why the presidential system is defective.

I personally prefer the Westminster System of Government. The majority party writes the budget and the idiocy we have now would never happen. If you cant get anything done the government collapses and you call for elections. You either do the job you were elected to do or GTFO.

 

[Mav88]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

The US Constitution is showing its age. The fiscal cliff nonsense is a vivid illustration of why the presidential system is defective.

I personally prefer the Westminster System of Government. The majority party writes the budget and the idiocy we have now would never happen. If you cant get anything done the government collapses and you call for elections. You either do the job you were elected to do or GTFO.

the united states was created around the idea that the minority has rights and the majority can not trample them. 1 juror can stop a conviction, the bill of rights would need a supermajority and a constitutional convention to overturn, etc.

pure democracy is awful, you are at the whims of the majority

 

[wjk]

Quote from Mav88:

the united states was created around the idea that the minority has rights and the majority can not trample them. 1 juror can stop a conviction, the bill of rights would need a supermajority and a constitutional convention to overturn, etc.

pure democracy is awful, you are at the whims of the majority

Some call it mob rule, which is OK with the left when it fits their agenda.

 

[Mav88]

Quote from wjk:

Some call it mob rule, which is OK with the left when it fits their agenda.

right, they keep complaining that we won't go along with the 'will of the people' while ignoring the will of the people on things like Obamacare.


Publix exemplifies my frustration with democrats. He beautifully points out how more and meaner cops enforcing existing laws gives good results. Then makes the logically disconnected assertion saying we need another national law so that other cities can do what NYC does. No, those other cities need more cops, not another law that they could not enforce anyway.

When we say that very same thing, that is just enforce the existing law, they laugh.

The urge to control, very very bad.

 

[wjk]

Quote from Mav88:


The urge to control...

That's my frustration with all libs, and sometimes moderates on the right.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Seriously do you folks write this nonsense just to amuse us?

I was thinking the exact same thing. This thread is a joke.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

The US Constitution is showing its age. The fiscal cliff nonsense is a vivid illustration of why the presidential system is defective.

I personally prefer the Westminster System of Government. The majority party writes the budget and the idiocy we have now would never happen. If you cant get anything done the government collapses and you call for elections. You either do the job you were elected to do or GTFO.

Why not move to the UK, then? Most of us like the US constitution, and don't want moonbats like yourself doing harm to it.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

The US Constitution is showing its age....

Well like all of us it does get older every day.

So you want to rewrite our constitution to suite you huh?

 

[Trader666]

Then move. The country would be better off and you'd be happier. A win-win!

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

The US Constitution is showing its age. The fiscal cliff nonsense is a vivid illustration of why the presidential system is defective.

I personally prefer the Westminster System of Government. The majority party writes the budget and the idiocy we have now would never happen. If you cant get anything done the government collapses and you call for elections. You either do the job you were elected to do or GTFO.

 

[wjk]

Quote from Trader666:

Then move. The country would be better off and you'd be happier. A win-win!

Perhaps he would enjoy China. They have strict gun control.