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God created people to live in relationship with Himself. Worship is not a tortuous ordeal as some people who haven't experienced genuine worship might imagine it to be. Worship is being enraptured with God's wonderfulness, His perfections in every aspect. He is good, He is eternal, He is all-powerful, He is loving, and only in righteousness does he judge that which is unrighteous.



Friendship vs Tyrannical Slave Master. God is not oppressive to His own, He is a kind and faithful Friend. A father or mother should have respect given to them by their child that is different from the way their child relates to his or her peers. God expects us to relate to Him with respect to His being God. Just as parents have responsibilities to love and care for their children, God does the same for us, if we will become one of His children.

Remember, that is exactly how God originally created the world. There was no mention of God demanding from Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden slavery as you described, "humans have to bow and scrape to a god all their life. What a waste of a life that everyday for most of the day one needs to be conscious of serving a master."

Instead there was only one commandment that required a deliberate choice on their part. They stole the fruit on that tree in direct disobedience to the only rule they had, knowing that God had warned them that "dying, you shall surely die."

So, what does a Creator, who is perfectly good and desires to live in happy relationship with beings He created, do when the creation chooses to become corrupt?

Kind of like HAL in 2001: A Space Odyssey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000


In the film, astronauts David Bowman and Frank Poole consider disconnecting HAL's cognitive circuits when he appears to be mistaken in reporting the presence of a fault in the spacecraft's communications antenna. They attempt to conceal what they are saying, but are unaware that HAL can read their lips. Faced with the prospect of disconnection, HAL decides to kill the astronauts in order to protect and continue his programmed directives.
Satan turned from God and desires to take others with him. This is eternal murder. He is guilty of deliberately enticing Eve to disobey God.

God could have banished Satan to hell for all eternity before he tempted Eve. God could have banished Adam and Eve to hell immediately after they sinned, so that no more sin would be in His universe.

Some things about God's reasons we do not understand, but there are some things in the Bible that do shed a little light on these kinds of questions. One verse that does that for me is Romans 9:22. Two translations of the verse are below:

What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? NIV

In the same way, even though God has the right to show his anger and his power, he is very patient with those on whom his anger falls, who are destined for destruction. NLT​

I speculate that a reason that God has allowed evil to manifest itself is so that He can demonstrate how just how evil evil really is. Maybe it's kind of like He has said, "Fine, you want it your way, you don't want Me to be involved, so I'll leave you alone."

In allowing evil to reveal itself for the horror that it is, He can one day judge all evil, separate that which is evil from that which is good, banish the evil forever from the presence of what is good, and be a completely righteous and good God to do so. No angels or people in heaven will have a doubt that evil should be banished.

In His mercy, God is patient with sinners, just as the verses above state. The heart of God toward sinners can be seen in this verse, "I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling." Rev 2:21

God wants people to repent. God freely offers to all reconciliation with Himself, giving to sinners the righteousness that we lack.

Think about this from God's perspective. He sent His Beloved Son, who is one with Him in nature, to our world. Both Jews and Gentiles were guilty of killing the Innocent One. The guilt of humanity is very deep in God's eyes.

Yet He pleads with us:

Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?’ Ezekiel 33:11​

and made a way for those from other nations to be reconciled through what Jesus did at the cross:

Just as there were many who were appalled at him—
his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being
and his form marred beyond human likeness—
so he will sprinkle many nations,
Isaiah 52:14, 15a​
I fail to be convinced of these stories and certainly I have no desire to spend my life running after church, doctrine, trying or wanting to interpret a religous book and running after a God who resides within imagination.
 
I fail to be convinced of these stories and certainly I have no desire to spend my life running after church, doctrine, trying or wanting to interpret a religous book and running after a God who resides within imagination.
Consider you starting a thread called 'God isn't;' and posting your manifestos there.
 
"The fifth commandment forbids direct and intentional killing as gravely sinful."
The point of the commandments in the Old Testament was to show that man can never live up to those rules, hence the need for a Savior. So knowing that all of your sins were covered at the cross, what are you saying is the problem? That there are certain sins covered by the blood of Jesus and some that aren't? Please elaborate.
 
I fail to be convinced of these stories and certainly I have no desire to spend my life running after church, doctrine, trying or wanting to interpret a religous book and running after a God who resides within imagination.
Several years ago, my brother-in-law's mother died after being run over by a car. It was on a Sunday morning, and the accident happened while she was walking to church! I'm sure he had a good reason, but it's hard to understand why God would allow this.
 
Several years ago, my brother-in-law's mother died after being run over by a car. It was on a Sunday morning, and the accident happened while she was walking to church! I'm sure he had a good reason, but it's hard to understand why God would allow this.
My former motherinlaw likewise, ran over and killed by a drunk driver as she was walking to church.

My brother, Christian, died of cancer.

My sister in law, she had cancer so my other brother made a vow, if she were healed he would become a christian. Sure enough she came right, they both attended church from then on, but shortly after she relapsed and died of cancer.
 
You guys, when you become a Christian it's not like you get protected from illness or dying in this life. You get the "get out of hell free" card, so to speak, but that doesn't go into effect until after we die.

There might be some confusion because the nation of Israel entered into a covenant with God where He promised physical blessings and protection to them as long as they obeyed His commands. New Testament Christians are under a "New Covenant."
 
https://www.gotquestions.org/this-cup-new-covenant-my-blood.html

At the Last Supper, Jesus took a cup and said, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you” (Luke 22:20). Moments before, the Lord had broken the bread and given it to His disciples with the words, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me” (verse 19). With these symbolic actions Jesus instituted the ordinance of communion, or the Lord’s Table.​

The “new covenant” that Jesus spoke of is in contrast to the Old Covenant, the conditional agreement that God had made with the Israelites through Moses. The Old Covenant established laws and ceremonies that separated the Jews from the other nations, defined sin, and showcased God’s provision of forgiveness through sacrifice. The New Covenant was predicted in Jeremiah 31:31–33.
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You get the "get out of hell free" card, so to speak, but that doesn't go into effect until after we die.
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The reality is that the Bible foretold about Jesus and other things and they came to pass. This is evidence.

I already showed evidence that the Old Testament in Jesus day is very, very close to what we currently have in our Bibles.

That means that nobody altered the Old Testament after Jesus came, to insert things that talked about Him.

There is PHYSICAL EVIDENCE proving this, that I've shown many times. (see Wikipedia Isaiah Scroll for evidence just for the book of Isaiah).

https://www.gotquestions.org/proof-inspiration-Bible.html
Here are some evidences that the Bible is inspired (God-breathed), as declared in 2 Timothy 3:16:

1) Fulfilled prophecy. God spoke to men telling them of things He would bring about in the future. Some of them have already occurred. Others have not. For example, the Old Testament contains more than 300 prophecies concerning Jesus Christ’s first coming. There is no doubt that these are prophecies from God because of manuscripts dated from before the birth of Christ. These were not written after the fact but beforehand.

2) The unity of Scripture. The Bible was written by approximately 40 human authors over a period of approximately 1,600 years. These men were quite diverse. Moses, was a political leader; Joshua, a military leader; David, a shepherd; Solomon, a king; Amos, a herdsman and fruit picker; Daniel, a prime minister; Matthew, a tax collector; Luke, a medical doctor; Paul, a rabbi; and Peter, a fisherman; among others. The Bible was also written under a variety of circumstances. It was written on 3 different continents, Europe, Asia, and Africa. Yet, the great themes of Scripture are maintained in all the writings. The Bible does not contradict itself. There is no way, apart from God the Holy Spirit supervising the writing of the Bible, that this could have been accomplished.

Contrast this with the Islamic Qur’an. It was compiled by one individual, Zaid bin Thabit, under the guidance of Mohammed’s father-in-law, Abu-Bekr. Then, in A.D. 650, a group of Arab scholars produced a unified version and destroyed all variant copies to preserve the unity of the Qur’an. The Bible was unified from the time of its writing. The Qur’an had unity forced upon it by human editors.

3) The Bible presents its heroes truthfully with all of their faults and weaknesses. It does not glorify men as other religions do their heroes. Reading the Bible, one realizes that the people it describes have problems and do wrong just as we do. What made the heroes of the Bible great was that they trusted in God. One example is David, who is described as “a man after God’s own heart” (1 Samuel 13:14). Yet, David committed adultery (2 Samuel 11:1-5) and murder (2 Samuel 11:14-26). This information could have easily been omitted from Scripture, but the God of truth included it.

4) Archaeological findings support the history recorded in Scripture. Though many unbelievers throughout history have tried to find archaeological evidence to disprove what is recorded in the Bible, they have failed. It is easy to say that Scripture is untrue. Proving it to be untrue is another matter. In fact, it has not been done. In the past, every time the Bible contradicted a current “scientific” theory, the Bible was proven later to be true and the scientific theory wrong. A good example is Isaiah 40:22. All the while that science declared the earth to be flat, the Bible stated that God “sits on the circle [sphere] of the earth.”

The Bible’s claims of being from God should not be understood as circular reasoning. The testimony of reliable witnesses—particularly Jesus, but also Moses, Joshua, David, Daniel, and Nehemiah in the Old Testament, and John and Paul in the New Testament—affirms the authority and verbal inspiration of the Holy Scriptures. Consider the following passages: Exodus 14:1; 20:1; Leviticus 4:1; Numbers 4:1;Deuteronomy 4:2; 32:48; Isaiah 1:10, 24; Jeremiah 1:11; Jeremiah 11:1–3; Ezekiel 1:3; 1 Corinthians 14:37; 1 Thessalonians 2:13; 2 Peter 1:16–21; 1 John 4:6.

Also of interest are the writings of Titus Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian who wrote during the first century A.D. Josephus records some events which coincide with Scripture. Considering the evidence given, we wholeheartedly accept the Bible as being from God (2 Timothy 3:16).
https://www.gotquestions.org/proof-inspiration-Bible.html
 
Imagine if if I wanted to write a book on trading.
When the book is completed, I would include all the trades which were profitable showing clear examples of (hindsight TA).
All my failed trades I would delete these prior to book publication.

This is how the bible was published, of all the documents they had prior to publication, the ones which never made the grade (hindsight analysis) were not included.
That's how it is so easy to show all these 'great true' prophesies.
 
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