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OK, so here is a prophesy that it doesn't matter when it was written, as long as it wasn't altered in our Bibles in the last 100 or so years, and I think you will agree that nobody has changed these verses in the last 100 years to make it look like prophecy fulfilled. There are too many copies of the Bible in too many languages for someone to have inserted these verses recently.
The prophesy is that God would scatter them into distant lands, then He would bring them back. Not only is this found in Isaiah, so we have a manuscript that has been proven to exist with this verse in it from before Jesus' time, but at least two other, different Old Testament prophets foretold the same thing.
The interesting thing about Isaiah is that is says "second time." There was a previous return, hundred of years before Jesus came, to the land of Israel. Then God said that in the future, He would scatter them again, and a second time bring them back. And how many times has the nation of Israel been regathered since they were scattered, I think around the destruction of the Jewish temple in 70 AD, but I haven't looked into it to know the exact year. ZERO TIMES, until the last 100 or so years.
There is evidence here, but I think some people really don't want to investigate it.
Isaiah 11:11
11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the surviving remnant of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the Mediterranean.
12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earth.
Zechariah 10:10
Though I scatter them among the peoples,
yet in distant lands they will remember me.
They and their children will survive,
and they will return.
10 I will bring them back from Egypt
and gather them from Assyria.
I will bring them to Gilead and Lebanon,
and there will not be room enough for them.
Jeremaiah 23:3
3 “I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number.
The prophesy is that God would scatter them into distant lands, then He would bring them back. Not only is this found in Isaiah, so we have a manuscript that has been proven to exist with this verse in it from before Jesus' time, but at least two other, different Old Testament prophets foretold the same thing.
The interesting thing about Isaiah is that is says "second time." There was a previous return, hundred of years before Jesus came, to the land of Israel. Then God said that in the future, He would scatter them again, and a second time bring them back. And how many times has the nation of Israel been regathered since they were scattered, I think around the destruction of the Jewish temple in 70 AD, but I haven't looked into it to know the exact year. ZERO TIMES, until the last 100 or so years.
There is evidence here, but I think some people really don't want to investigate it.
Isaiah 11:11
11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the surviving remnant of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the Mediterranean.
12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earth.
Zechariah 10:10
Though I scatter them among the peoples,
yet in distant lands they will remember me.
They and their children will survive,
and they will return.
10 I will bring them back from Egypt
and gather them from Assyria.
I will bring them to Gilead and Lebanon,
and there will not be room enough for them.
Jeremaiah 23:3
3 “I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number.
That's a good article.
King James was a political beast...
https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-I-king-of-England-and-Scotland
In 1589 James was married to Anne, the daughter of Frederick II of Denmark, who in 1594 gave birth to their first son, Prince Henry. James’s rule of Scotland was basically successful. He was able to play off Protestant and Roman Catholic factions of Scottish nobles against each other, and, through a group of commissioners known as the Octavians (1596–97), he was able to rule Scotland almost as absolutely as Elizabeth I ruled England. The king was a convinced Presbyterian, but in 1584 he secured a series of acts that made him the head of the Presbyterian church in Scotland, with the power to appoint the church’s bishops.....
Besides the political problems that he bequeathed to his son Charles, James left a body of writings which, though of mediocre quality as literature, entitle him to a unique place among English kings since the time of Alfred. Chief among these writings are two political treatises, The True Lawe of Free Monarchies (1598) and Basilikon Doron (1599), in which he expounded his own views on the divine right of kings. The 1616 edition of The Political Works of James I was edited by Charles Howard McIlwain (1918). The Poems of James VI of Scotland (2 vol.) was edited by James Craigie (1955–58). In addition, James famously oversaw a new authorized English translation of the Bible, published in 1611, which became known as the King James Version.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-I-king-of-England-and-Scotland
In 1589 James was married to Anne, the daughter of Frederick II of Denmark, who in 1594 gave birth to their first son, Prince Henry. James’s rule of Scotland was basically successful. He was able to play off Protestant and Roman Catholic factions of Scottish nobles against each other, and, through a group of commissioners known as the Octavians (1596–97), he was able to rule Scotland almost as absolutely as Elizabeth I ruled England. The king was a convinced Presbyterian, but in 1584 he secured a series of acts that made him the head of the Presbyterian church in Scotland, with the power to appoint the church’s bishops.....
Besides the political problems that he bequeathed to his son Charles, James left a body of writings which, though of mediocre quality as literature, entitle him to a unique place among English kings since the time of Alfred. Chief among these writings are two political treatises, The True Lawe of Free Monarchies (1598) and Basilikon Doron (1599), in which he expounded his own views on the divine right of kings. The 1616 edition of The Political Works of James I was edited by Charles Howard McIlwain (1918). The Poems of James VI of Scotland (2 vol.) was edited by James Craigie (1955–58). In addition, James famously oversaw a new authorized English translation of the Bible, published in 1611, which became known as the King James Version.
You continue to forget something, the bible is written by men, it is the word of man.
If one knows nothing different, sits in church Sunday after Sunday, only socialise with christians, of course you are going to believe the bible is the word of god, its drummed into you.
Group think, not only that, humans want to relate to their peers, so your thinking, behaviour will emulate those of friends and those whom you admire.
It becomes a quicksand where we refuse to question outside the circle.
We become too afraid to question.
Group think, not only that, humans want to relate to their peers, so your thinking, behaviour will emulate those of friends and those whom you admire.
It becomes a quicksand where we refuse to question outside the circle.
We become too afraid to question.
I'm not afraid to question. I question everything, actually. But I have very good reasons to believe the Bible is reliable and God led men to write the Bible.
You simply dismiss the prophesies without a good reason. Why not investigate them? There are lots out there. Why not try to prove the Bible is wrong instead of dismissing evidence?
LOL. I am not threatened at all by you. You haven't presented anything concrete to try to shake my faith. I don't think Userque is threatened by you either. I think he is annoyed that you aren't listening to the evidence we show you.
I feel like I'm saying, "Look at the beautiful sunset." And you won't look up, you just stare at the grass saying, "Sunsets do not exist. I only see green plants."
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